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Re: And AiG are indignant once again

Postby a_haworthroberts » Sat May 25, 2019 11:56 pm

a_haworthroberts wrote:https://answersingenesis.org/ministry-news/ark-encounter/faked-news/
Most of the reports I've seen refer - correctly - to rain damage. Something Looy ignores.
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/201 ... od-damage/
AiG didn't build on sand - it was shale.



There is further discussion and clarification here:
https://pandasthumb.org/archives/2019/0 ... f_god.html
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Ken Ham sounds off on Facebook today

Postby a_haworthroberts » Thu May 30, 2019 6:27 pm

''Alexa and the media across the world were happy to believe in a flood at the Ark Encounter attraction for which there is no evidence, and which didn't happen—but they won't believe in a flood for which there's overwhelming evidence (massive fossil-bearing layers) all over the world.
We certainly live in the era of fake news. Whether it's the Washington Post or any of many mass media outlets in the world, which fact-checking consists of quoting other fake news sources and adding fake news upon fake news. Some media (like AP) at least eventually somewhat corrected their false flood report, but in general, the media couldn't help itself but spread fake news. Most media outlets used this item to mock those who believe in the real flood that actually occurred, but made a mockery of themselves showing they are so eager to believe anything, even fake news, just to mock Christians. Most of the media is a joke and not interested in the truth.''

That's funny. When people try to fact check the claims of Mr Ham he refuses to co-operate.

Because he has no real interest in truth - and every interest in indoctrination by creationists.

And I see that the strident threesome (the main 'Answers News' presenters) are sounding off against scientists again today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTnIuLwt1bs
''Naturalists misinterpret Flood debris rafts.'' The bigots are apparently upset about this - because it doesn't fit with their 'biblical' history it would seem:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/22 ... rld-trips/ (there's a paywall here - but AiG aren't short of funds)
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Rabble rouser Ken Ham

Postby a_haworthroberts » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:39 pm

https://answersingenesis.org/fossils/ho ... l-mystery/
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arc ... sh/590689/
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/ ... .2019.0891

I suspect these fish all died rapidly and en masse before becoming buried (even if the aligned pattern might have been caused after they were dead). How would a 'global' - or violent local - flood do that?

Ken Ham answers 'the flood' to any unsolved science question. But if it was the 'global' flood, the pattern of this particular fossil is decidedly unusual.
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Rabble rouser Ken Ham misusing Genesis

Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:23 pm

https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula ... bible-ken/
Just seen. Odds on Ken Ham and Answers in Genesis will NOT deal with this (even though Myers, unlike me, is well-known).
(I see two of them were also proclaiming their answer here, from just past 15 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_j0uTbFmTI
But 'rapid burial' does not fully explain what happened on this occasion - many millions of years ago.
However, if you are a YEC the only thing the only catastrophe that can explain fossilisation in the past is a 'global flood' it would seem. And guess what there's one of those in the Bible.)
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Ken Ham (who dislikes libraries) sounding off on Facebook

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:58 am

https://www.facebook.com/aigkenham/
''What nonsense: "the ocean of Enceladus is about a billion years old” ... “That's good news for life: it should have had enough time to arise."
You can have trillions of years, zillions of years, and life will never arise by natural processes. The study of DNA makes it absolutely clear: life is built on information and code systems--and such can only come into existence by an intelligence--an infinite intelligence, the Creator God.
And this moon is only about 6,000 years old anyway, created on day 4 of the Creation Week.
https://www.foxnews.com/science/saturns ... dus-life''

These are religious beliefs. They NOT scientific facts.

What nonsense indeed.
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One of Ken Ham's favourite narrative-sustaining falsehoods

Postby a_haworthroberts » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:52 pm

https://www.facebook.com/aigkenham/
''When you think shells, fish, and other sea creatures, you probably don’t think of Ohio. After all, it doesn’t exactly feature seaside living! And yet there are fossils of sea creatures found throughout that state, as well as in many other landlocked areas away from the seas.
We find billions of fossils of sea creatures literally everywhere—from the tops of mountains to completely landlocked prairies. This phenomenon means that at one point the entire globe had to be covered with water...
https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken- ... in-ohio/''

Marine fossils on some mountain tops have been explained - without any single, global, mountain/hill covering flood event.

I also do not think that Ham's sweeping claim ''We find billions of fossils of sea creatures literally everywhere — from the tops of mountains to completely landlocked prairies'' is truthful and accurate and based upon known and undisputed findings (if by 'literally everywhere' he means just that, rather than 'in all sorts of geological locations' or some such; also not all kinds of rocks can even host fossils, whether of 'sea creatures' or otherwise).

I am thinking in particular of cratons. And you don't see many articles specifically discussing cratons on the AiG website.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craton
''A craton is an old and stable part of the continental lithosphere, which consists of the Earth's two topmost layers, the crust and the uppermost mantle. Having often survived cycles of merging and rifting of continents, cratons are generally found in the interiors of tectonic plates. They are characteristically composed of ancient crystalline basement rock, which may be covered by younger sedimentary rock.''
https://answersingenesis.org/geology/ro ... -delivery/
''Cratons consist of the foundational basement rocks of the continents, before they broke apart during the Flood and were covered by fossil-bearing sedimentary layers.''
A slight difference of viewpoint there. Are all craton areas covered by sedimentary rock layers?

https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.co ... sis-flood/
Sensuous Curmudgeon has posted on this very recent claim by Ham. Underneath I have posted the following comment/question: ''''We find billions of fossils of sea creatures literally everywhere — from the tops of mountains to completely landlocked prairies.'' Can any geologist or student of geology tells us whether that is truthful and accurate?''
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As mentioned previously

Postby a_haworthroberts » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:17 pm

a_haworthroberts wrote:https://answersingenesis.org/fossils/how-are-fossils-formed/ken-ham-solves-paleontological-mystery/
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arc ... sh/590689/
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/ ... .2019.0891

I suspect these fish all died rapidly and en masse before becoming buried (even if the aligned pattern might have been caused after they were dead). How would a 'global' - or violent local - flood do that?

Ken Ham answers 'the flood' to any unsolved science question. But if it was the 'global' flood, the pattern of this particular fossil is decidedly unusual.



https://creation.com/fish-school-fossilized
I'd like to refer Mr Robinson to my previous comments.
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Revolting climate change rabble rouser, fantasist and liar

Postby a_haworthroberts » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:39 pm

https://www.facebook.com/aigkenham/
''If they think this is going to stop climate change (whatever they understand that to mean), it won't! There's been considerable climate change since the Flood (and because of the Flood) but regardless, the basic seasons etc., will continue and whatever man does it's not going to destroy the earth—as God is the one who determines when this earth will be destroyed by fire (2 Peter 3).
Besides, God promised after the Flood that "While the earth remains, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night shall not cease" (Genesis 8:22). And God gave man dominion over the earth, so we can use the earth’s resources (responsibly, of course) for man's good and God's glory.
There's been massive climate change in the past to produce the Sahara desert, and change once fertile lands of Egypt--and none of that was due to using coal or oil. So climate change has to be a much more complex issue involving many factors.
By the way, the biggest greenhouse gas is not carbon dioxide—it pales in comparison to water vapor! And there's great evidence the sun's activity has a lot to do with climate change. Much of the climate change alarmist movement is political in nature, ignoring the actual verified observational scientific research. A great website to check out is CornwallAlliance.org
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/daniel- ... ezopJjrs''

Ham's making up of his own 'facts', denial of scientific reality, alt-right 'liberal' hating politics and general bigotry are despicable. I speak as a Christian believer (but I already thought it in my agnostic phase),

Ham has (again) weaponised Genesis 8:22 for his own bigoted and unscientific fundamentalist agenda that has nothing to do with the Christian gospel. The verse does NOT tell us that current global warming is 'natural' and not man-caused, nor that it is 'NOT' a serious issue that requires urgent action, NOR that the verse supports or is consistent with the notion of a 'post-flood ice age'. Three lies constantly pushed by this right wing Christian bigot. This despicable rabble rouser is telling his far right and ignorant and credulous supporters that if current climate change will not cancel basic seasons (of course it won't given Earth's orbit around the Sun) and won't destroy the Earth it is nothing to worry about (not only in rich America but in impoverished tropical areas of the world as well, assuming he cares a jot about such places). And of course there was also (unbiblical) natural climate change before humans altered the composition of the ATMOSPHERE. And this evil person also repeats his favourite misdirection (that scientists are fully aware of when determining that accelerating climate change/global warming is, unintentionally, man-made) that water vapour is a bigger greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide. And for good measures two more LIES: that there's 'great evidence' the sun's activity has a lot to do with climate change, and that climate change 'alarmism' somehow 'ignores' the 'actual verified observational scientific research'. Concerning what is taking place right NOW, both claims are totally FALSE. Ken Ham is a liar.

https://www.france24.com/en/20190722-fr ... 46-degrees
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/p ... -this-week
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Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his climate change falsehoods

Postby a_haworthroberts » Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:10 pm

Here's something else anthropogenic climate change denialists like Mr Ham, and right wing populists and nationalists in general, will choose to shrug off and ignore:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586- ... .bbc.co.uk

It's called 'global' warming for a reason.

Talking of which:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49108847
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49106092 (37.7 C is, already, the second hottest temperature recorded in the UK - after temperatures above 38 C in several locations in another 21st century year, on 10 August 2003)

Christians should NOT shackle themselves to the reality denial bandwagon that insists this is not man-caused 'because of the Bible'. If they refuse they will be rightly ridiculed and dismissed. Is that what they want?


UPDATE: 38.1 C (100.6 F) recorded today at Cambridge.
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Ken Ham is a despicable liar

Postby a_haworthroberts » Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:01 am

Answers in Genesis, especially their President, truly hate science since they are forever on the attack against those concerned about demonstrably man-made climate change (including temperatures over 100 F recorded in Cambridge, England, this week) even though this reality-denial has NOTHING to do with the Bible or Christianity):
https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken- ... te-change/
''... Attenborough sees young people as the stimulus for bringing about a change that would get the UK to net-zero when it comes to carbon emissions. But should young people and others be pushing for radical solutions to the perceived climate crisis?''
Yes - especially given the behaviour of the current US President.

The cynical liar Ken Ham is once against dismissing the global warming crisis as 'alarmism'. Invoking fake history made up by young earth creationists to try and defend his reality denial. Will he ever repent of his lying about science and high profile attacks against people he disagrees with including scientists and those who are more scientifically qualified than him (including Attenborough)? I very much doubt it. He would be worried about his reputation (and some people buy the nonsense he comes out with on climate change). So the endless lying will continue I fear. It's what liars do.

The Cornwall Alliance are equally dishonest about climate change and MANY Christians reject their fictional claims:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornwall_Alliance

Meanwhile in the real world (the world despised by the extremist Christian Mr Ken Ham - who blocks my emails like a coward):
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1401-2
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Evil and not a real Christian just a lying vain bigot

Postby a_haworthroberts » Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:22 pm

a_haworthroberts wrote:
a_haworthroberts wrote:https://answersingenesis.org/fossils/how-are-fossils-formed/ken-ham-solves-paleontological-mystery/
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arc ... sh/590689/
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/ ... .2019.0891

I suspect these fish all died rapidly and en masse before becoming buried (even if the aligned pattern might have been caused after they were dead). How would a 'global' - or violent local - flood do that?

Ken Ham answers 'the flood' to any unsolved science question. But if it was the 'global' flood, the pattern of this particular fossil is decidedly unusual.



https://creation.com/fish-school-fossilized
I'd like to refer Mr Robinson to my previous comments.



Yet more fake science posted by the fake 'Christian' coward who hates me so much but also is too scared to hold a direct conversation with me (using somebody's else's blog page to do evil):
http://radaractive.blogspot.com/2019/07 ... flood.html
''Deniers of the global Genesis Flood try desperately to find rescuing devices to avoid that the evidence clearly illustrates. One jasper even suggested that they died en masse before they were buried, which only made things worse. Or was it global warming?''

Talking of fake science and science denial - both are INDISPENSABLE to defend a 'recent global flood' as history:
https://creation.com/refuting-evolutionary-propaganda

Bob Sorensen is unbelievably evil and deceitful, as this thread comprehensively demonstrates. Time and again he behaves despicably. He has never been truly converted whatever his theology.

He claims to have defeated me yet won't even show his stupid followers what I wrote. There's a word for that. Fraud. Or cheating. (But you can't deceive God.)

Boasting and wilfully deceiving people are SIN. Ever heard of that Cowardly Bob?

Is Sorensen suggesting these fish all died at different times to each other (how would a global flood do that)?

Is Sorensen sane?

The dying en masse idea did not even originate with me. According to that great expert in science Ken Ham: ''One expert, who has studied other fossils from the Green River Formation, said that the school of fish probably died together because of a volcanic eruption, a mass of oxygen-poor water, or a temperature shift, and then all the fish fell to the bottom of the lake and were aligned by the current and then fossilized. But mathematical models appear to rule out this explanation. Others have suggested maybe a collapsed sand dune buried them, but they admitted “they don’t have a great explanation.”''
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Re: Ken Ham is a despicable liar

Postby a_haworthroberts » Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:22 pm

a_haworthroberts wrote:Answers in Genesis, especially their President, truly hate science since they are forever on the attack against those concerned about demonstrably man-made climate change (including temperatures over 100 F recorded in Cambridge, England, this week) even though this reality-denial has NOTHING to do with the Bible or Christianity):
https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken- ... te-change/
''... Attenborough sees young people as the stimulus for bringing about a change that would get the UK to net-zero when it comes to carbon emissions. But should young people and others be pushing for radical solutions to the perceived climate crisis?''
Yes - especially given the behaviour of the current US President.

The cynical liar Ken Ham is once against dismissing the global warming crisis as 'alarmism'. Invoking fake history made up by young earth creationists to try and defend his reality denial. Will he ever repent of his lying about science and high profile attacks against people he disagrees with including scientists and those who are more scientifically qualified than him (including Attenborough)? I very much doubt it. He would be worried about his reputation (and some people buy the nonsense he comes out with on climate change). So the endless lying will continue I fear. It's what liars do.

The Cornwall Alliance are equally dishonest about climate change and MANY Christians reject their fictional claims:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornwall_Alliance

Meanwhile in the real world (the world despised by the extremist Christian Mr Ken Ham - who blocks my emails like a coward):
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1401-2



https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/201 ... bal-flood/
The atheist is so upset by Ham's false teachings that he mentions 'god' in his post. (I'd sooner listen to a truthful atheist than a lying Christian.)
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Lying lunatic Ken Ham

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:37 pm

https://answersingenesis.org/environmen ... d-glacier/
The young earth creationist liar Ken Ham hates scientific and observational reality.
''Climate change alarmism is based on a faulty view of the past and ignorance of God’s promise that we will always have summer and winter, seedtime and harvest (Genesis 8:22)''

LIAR.
FOOL.
BIGOT.

The 'alarmism' is based 100 per cent on evidence (the scientists aren't seeking popularity with their warnings).

If there was an asteroid headed for Earth would this moron say 'no need for panic or action just read your Bible'?

People rightly despise Christians like this false prophet and wilful deceiver.

I haven't the time or motivation to count how many (recycled) lies this blog post contains.

Genesis 8:22 pretty much rules out the current global warming as being from God (it's from Man that is the whole point).

I now seriously doubt that Ham is or ever was a genuine saved Christian. He is a political hate-monger, a liar, a bigot and a reality denier who hates the science he claims to 'love' ie a hypocrite (and authoritarian and arrogant) as well.
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Liar in town

Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:00 pm

Somebody should ask this 'Christian' why he tells so many lies about climate change:
https://answersingenesis.org/outreach/event/oxford19/
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Not a real Christian but a real bigot

Postby a_haworthroberts » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:47 pm

The irresponsible and dangerous right wing bigot, liar and anti-science fool Ken Ham is at it yet again (he hates experts because he is not one himself):

https://www.facebook.com/aigkenham/
''The expert on climate change, population growth, resources, environment, and the purpose and meaning of life, Prince Harry of England, stated: "being as intelligent as we all are, or as evolved as we all are supposed to be, we should be able to leave something better behind for the next generation."
My question: why? If this life is all there is and then you die and that's it, you won't know you ever existed, so why even care about what happens to the next generation? After all, one day they'll die and never know they existed.
Now, I don't know where Prince Harry stands regarding the Bible, but I've never seen evidence he believes it's God Word as written. But why do so many who don't believe God's Word concerning salvation and eternity care at all about the future when ultimately they die and then they're done?
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/princ ... e-change''

I have a question too. What has this constant ranting on Facebook got to do with Christianity or Christian behaviour?

Christians should ignore this irresponsible bigoted dishonest fundamentalist (I mean ignore what he is claiming not ignore him in the sense of not challenging the lies, the hate and the bigotry).

This tells us what a nasty selfish piece of work Ham would be if he did not profess to be 'Christian'.
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