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a_haworthroberts wrote:https://answersingenesis.org/fossils/fossil-record/where-are-all-pre-flood-human-fossils/
Look at all the nonsense from these unbiblical creationists - when put on the spot and obliged to reveal to the world all their totally made-up claims:
"The flood of Noah’s day was much more destructive than any 40-day rainstorm ever could be. Scripture says that the “fountains of the great deep” broke open (Genesis 7:11). In other words, earthquakes, volcanoes, and geysers of molten lava and scalding water were squeezed out of the earth’s crust in a violent, explosive upheaval. These fountains were not stopped until 150 days into the flood—so the earth’s surface was literally churning underneath the waters for about five months!"
Most of that is not in Genesis 7:11 nor any other Bible verse.
"It was God’s purpose and desire not only to destroy man and all air-breathing land animals, but also to reshape and purge the earth itself." Except that the account in Genesis 6 (whilst being totally silent on the topic of fossilisation) states God's words at verse 7 - "I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them" ie there's the suggestion that the flood would primarily kill vast numbers of humans and of land-based species (but as the article admits the vast majority of known fossils are marine fossils which suggests they did NOT die in a 'worldwide' flood).
"Due to the marine nature of the judgment ...". The Bible says NO such thing and this is another made-up fact from these liars - employed solely to try and give a convincing answer to the enquirer ie that as young earth creationist apologists "we would expect marine fossils to dominate most of the fossil record". If you read the flood account and assumed the event left behind many fossils, you simply would NOT expect marine fossils to 'dominate'.
"As mentioned earlier, since the flood was a marine catastrophe, we would expect marine fossils to be dominant in the fossil record, and that is the case".
Tell the lie twice, and maybe AiG supporters will buy into it (and forget what the flood account actually records, including that no marine species were reported to have boarded the ark because rising and expanding seas and lakes would not necessarily have killed them).
"A walk up through the walls of Grand Canyon and northward across the Colorado Plateau, for example, is not a walk through evolutionary time."
It's a walk through DEEP time - and a period before even most dinosaurs first existed.
"With all of these factors, it is much less likely for there to be pre-flood human, mammal, and bird fossils". Not according to Genesis 6:7 (if you assume the flood would leave behind most of the fossil record). But since it is TRUE that human, land animal and bird fossils form only a small proportion of the (DEEP time) fossil record, Ken Ham should STOP misleadingly indoctrinating kids that "If there really were a global flood as described in Genesis, what would we expect to see today? Billions of dead things buried in rock layers laid down by water all over the earth". No - we see mostly millions of marine fossils such as corals and shellfish - which the Bible does NOT say were killed in that global flood. The fossils in question are mostly much too old anyway.
"... creationists believe the order in the fossil record exists due to the flood...". They are believing in a scientific impossibility ie 'magic'.
a_haworthroberts wrote:https://www.facebook.com/Piltdown.Superman/
''Featured Post: "Rewriting Dinosaur Evolution Again"
Evolutionists have to rewrite the history of dinosaur evolution again. The facts do not support their stories. This would not happen if they had the proper starting point instead of anti-creation views.
http://www.piltdownsuperman.com/2018/09 ... facebook''
Some people have the same starting point as you Bob - the Bible which they regard as infallible (rather than starting with that pesky thing called evidence, such as fossils). And those same people insist that dinosaurs 'never existed'. I've seen such comments under articles on Ken Ham's Facebook page. So much for the Bible giving all the answers on this biological topic. Or maybe these Christians are 'blind' to the Bible's 'answers' regarding when where and how dinosaurs lived and precisely why they (or any other creature) went extinct?
MisterGordons wrote:a_haworthroberts wrote:https://www.facebook.com/Piltdown.Superman/
''Featured Post: "Rewriting Dinosaur Evolution Again"
Evolutionists have to rewrite the history of dinosaur evolution again. The facts do not support their stories. This would not happen if they had the proper starting point instead of anti-creation views.
http://www.piltdownsuperman.com/2018/09 ... facebook''
Some people have the same starting point as you Bob - the Bible which they regard as infallible (rather than starting with that pesky thing called evidence, such as fossils). And those same people insist that dinosaurs 'never existed'. I've seen such comments under articles on Ken Ham's Facebook page. So much for the Bible giving all the answers on this biological topic. Or maybe these Christians are 'blind' to the Bible's 'answers' regarding when where and how dinosaurs lived and precisely why they (or any other creature) went extinct?
Once again the dishonest meat machine known as Ashley Haworth-Roberts is seeking attention although he has no credibility. I have shown how he is dishonest several times here including his refusal to honour his promise to remove people from his mailing list who do not want to receive it. There is no reason to include Dr. Brown, Dr. Walker and others who are not a part of the discussion except to poison them against Cowboy Bob Sorensen. This is an example of the desperation of someone who has not scientific or moral reason in his argumentation.
Ashley Haworth-Roberts ignores several articles that the meat machine known as Cowboy Bob Sorensen has linked in the derided post. The Cowboy did not discuss the fact that creation science organisations as a whole accept the existence of dinosaurs. Meat Machine Ken Ham had nothing to do with this post. Ham did not write it. His organisation was not linked here. Ashley Haworth-Roberts claims but supplies no evidence that Christians believe that dinosaurs never existed. His 'evidence' consists of alleged comments on Ken Ham's Facebook page. If those comments existed there is no reason to believe that they were written by Christians since atheists are known to pretend to be Christians so they can make stupid comments in order to ridicule actual Christians. Ashley Haworth-Roberts is only interested in displaying his hate and seeking revenge because his logic has been refuted many times and his bigotry has been exploited.
MisterGordons wrote:Ashley Haworth-Roberts is shifting the blame and being a hypocrite. He said he would remove people from his spam list. I have said numerous times that I do not want his spam. He refuses to remove my name. He is repeatedly proven a liar. He has never shown that the other people like Brown, Walker, Safarti actually want to see his rants. He accused me of being off topic but his entire post is off topic. He is lying by omission and refusing to deal with the content of the Sorensen post. What people have allegedly said on the Ham post is irrelevant just like the posts of Ashley Haworth-Roberts.
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