YEC Bob Sorensen - compulsive liar exposed

[a_haworthroberts]

https://www.facebook.com/Piltdown.Superman/
"You provided some good links and showed that he is lazy, dishonest, or maybe something else (another possibility is that he's downright stupid). Although the word is greatly overused, it applies here: that jasper is evil. Misrepresentation of creations, lack of understanding of his own religion (evolutionism), does not understand science itself — but has a passel of hate to motivate his inane babblings. He even makes up his own facts! No wonder Haywire the Stalker likes him, they're so much alike. -CBB"
(post made 8 hours ago, replying to one there by Gordons)

Sorensen's too scared to come HERE and argue the case he claims to have on the subject of the Cambrian Explosion. And he can't resist attacking me once again even though the posts he is railing about were made by The Question Evolution Project Debunked. But this total fraud likes to pretend that all those who oppose his falsehoods (I don't say Christianity is false I say his apologetics claims are false) are alike. He stereotypes his critics in a most reprehensible way - "it's what they are like" "it's what they do".

It's MUCH easier to SAY what Sorensen says above (on his OWN censored page) than to SHOW it in actual DEBATE. The man is evil. I've been saying as much for YEARS. He will NEVER change. He will continue to CHEAT and LIE about the alleged stupidity of his critics (whether or not they actually are or appear to be stupid).

And the fascist oops authoritarian Sorensen shows his true colours within a further more recent comment where he ends with "Can't wait for the ego struggle between him and Haywire. -CBB". Well that's progress. It makes a change from falsely accusing me of BEING someone else, whether TQEPD or Professor Tertius/The Bible and Science Forum.

[CHartsil]

I would still argue that he is more inept than evil. He's just smart enough to play the 'Poor me I'm such a victim' shtick to creationists to garner attention.

He definitely doesn't have good intentions but evil still connotes intellect enough to realize what you're doing is malevolent.

[a_haworthroberts]

https://www.facebook.com/cowboybobsorensen
"This was "Scream Helplessly at the Sky" day for Democrats. Why? They don't expect God to hear them, they reject him and his Word. Leftists still cannot tolerate losing the election. Those of us who did not want eight years of Caliph B. Hussein Obama wrecking the country were not the ones shooting Congressmen, burning dumpsters, rioting, needing "safe spaces", demanding coddling, and throwing tantrums in general. No, we are the ones who act like adults."

He's also pushing this mendacious article (what's this got to do with the Bible or Christianity anyway):
https://answersingenesis.org/environmen ... l-warming/

If Bob did not block my emails he would have read THIS one (now slightly reworded at the opening para) earlier this week:
"Further to my email of 22 September. Yet more confirmation that the fundamentalist Christians known as young earth creationists are (almost without exception) reality deniers, professional frauds and pathological liars when it comes to science. For some reason best known to themselves they ATTACK the climate change science that all but TWO [now ONE apparently; guess which one] world governments accept highlights a serious problem if it not tackled (it was all but one until that stupid election last November).

https://answersingenesis.org/environmen ... l-warming/

How many lies/deliberate misdirections can you count in this article (which purports to be partly about the record-breaking storm named Hurricane Irma)? I counted ten.

What is wrong with these people. Why are the SO blinkered and bigoted?

Check out (again) all the records broken by Irma. Something the delusional liar Oard deliberately AVOIDS discussing (that's ANOTHER lie, a lie of omission):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Irma#Records

'Get the facts'. Just don't go to Answers in Genesis if FACTS are what you want.

Here I suggest are some relevant facts:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-41778089

And here is a non-religious attacker on climate change science being exposed as a liar:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41744344

There is NO excuse for these people. This is not so-called 'historical science' that cannot be observed, measured or experienced directly. They are not ignorant (but bigoted) and they CANNOT plead ignorance. The Pope is right about them. He could also have made the point that man-caused climate change denial has ZILCH to do with the Bible (it would turn me off Christianity since I would not embrace a faith that those who embrace it become or remain serial bigoted liars)."

[a_haworthroberts]

In fact THAT particular email wasn't copied to Bob after all (now forwarded).

[CHartsil]

There's not much left to say...

[a_haworthroberts]

http://www.piltdownsuperman.com/2017/11 ... truth.html
"Another tactic, frequently observed in leftist news media, is to ignore inconvenient truths and pretend that they do not exist."
Such as? Do enlighten your followers (and us), Bob.
Meanwhile creationists and the right wing media frequently deny the findings of biology, geology, astronomy, climatology ...

Meanwhile this claim has just appeared, from TQEPD (I cannot corroborate it):
https://www.facebook.com/TQEPDebunked
"You're hypocrites because you try to play the "Oh poor me, these atheists are attacking us with logic and reason" nonsense and try to rationalize it to yourselves by accusing us of trolling.
I was initially blocked from your page for a single post regarding the impossibility of the flood. If it really is a matter of us being ignorant trolls instead of you being a coward, feel free to come here any time and correct anything on this page.
Don't worry though, I don't expect you to have the courage to do that."

Despite TQEPD apparently failing to closely read all the YEC garbage that Bob posted re the Lost Squadron, Bob is STILL refusing to actually meaningfully debate with TQEPD.

Bob also is wailing on his Facebook page:
"Also, we're "hypocrites" because we won't let any wandering atheopath use the comments section as a personal latrine, but complain about the secular science system. Invalid comparison. They don't know logic or their own mythology, then wonder why we don't give them a forum. -CBB". He won't debate anyone on THEIR Facebook page, nor on THIS BCSE page which CHartsil also visits. And if he debated CHartsil on his OWN page, Bob would censor almost anything he wrote. Poor Bob, it just seems that he cannot cope with debating - ANY time, ANY place ...

I guess he will have to remain a lifelong coward (and post stuff like this knowing that I CAN'T correct his evil on his own page):
https://www.facebook.com/Piltdown.Superman/
"Let's look at this example of logic and objectivity (snicker) in a different way. First, this owlhoot is whining that the author of a creationary post is a bigot, like the rest of us. I guess making a statement magically makes it a fact in Atheistland. Second, the author "won't listen".
Working backward, look at the comments area of the post and see who *really* will not listen and ignores the content of replies received in the interest of his hypocritical atheistic bigotry. (The old saying can be used here: explaining logic to a village atheist is like teaching a pig to sing, it wastes your time and annoys the pig.) The majority of the content of the article is ignored and waved off with what could be summed up as, "No it isn't! That's not true because evolution!""

Bob also links to this:
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogI ... 9478665113

At that discussion I flagged to Steve on 21 October my post below.
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=3829&p=51695#p51695
On 21 October I wrote here "[Sorensen] also tries to rabble rouse in a further comment:
"want to contact Steve Risner on this?" I've nothing to fear from that.
Well, if some of Sorensen's rabble do that I doubt that Steve is going to join in the bullying (even if his WW's sidekick Wolcott enjoys Class A bigotry AND attempted bullying - note his false allegation that in my comments I "never actually engaged the material much"):
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogI ... 9478665113
I'll flag this post to Steve anyway."

I note that somewhat underhandedly, as recently as 2 November when I had long stopped viewing the page, Steve then replied to me at the WW's discussion:
"I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to gather from your link, Ashley. It's nice you're chatting about me and gossiping about me on the internet. That's super.
I note that you make grand claims when your opponent in debate is not present. Aside from that, I have no idea how to even navigate through the sludge on the other end of that link. It's cumbersome and hard to follow--choppy and references lots of other things that were allegedly said or done that I just don't have time to chase down.
I do think you mentioned the "Christians invented science" topic and, again, because you don't understand the topic or the point, you keep rambling about the Chinese and Muslims and their contributions to science. Lots of people from around the world have contributed to our knowledge base. But the scientific method was invented by a Christian in Europe and, for the 40th time, nearly every if not every major branch of science was founded by a Christian creationist. If you won't comment on that directly, don't comment on it. If you have evidence that suggests several major branches of science were, in fact, founded by someone other than creationists, I'll be happy to view it. If you have evidence that science and the way it is conducted in the modern world was not worked out by Christians, please show it. Otherwise, you've exposed yourself as unable to even participate in the conversation. You keep spewing out nonsense that has no connection to the topic at hand. In fact, you know what? Go to the "Creation Scientist Is Not An Oxymoron" post and comment there directly on what it says that is incorrect or that you have a different take on, please. It'll be easier to reference."

Steve needs to understand that Bob is not present here because he is a COWARD and also because I CAN'T (thanks to Bob) challenge him on his own page.

And I recall that I called Steve a bigot here on 19 October. That continues to look apt.
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=3829&p=51684&hilit=sheer#p51684

[a_haworthroberts]

Re the bigotry from Sorensen and Risner (see preceding post) that I 'won't listen' when they insist that the scientific method was 'invented by creationist Christians in Europe':
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_science

Young earth creationists are thieves. They steal words. Notably the word 'science' (which originally meant 'knowledge' - but that does NOT mean that real knowledge 'only' comes from or confirms the Bible).

[a_haworthroberts]

https://www.facebook.com/Piltdown.Superman/ (under one of their recent propaganda graphics, one dated 15 Nov, that are to do with an alleged 'elephant in the room')
Long: "If I'm guessing right, one is Hitler-Robbers and the other is the one who has multiple fake names like Chris, Joe and a bunch of others."
Sorensen: "The Admin who is skilled with graphics made this, but I think you may be right. I want to add that both of those you named are mentally deranged and demoniacs, and the "Chris" sidewinder is dangerous in his obsession. Both are consumed with hatred for God and his people, do not want to know what we *really* believe and teach, relentlessly misrepresent creationists, lie outright, and even make up their own facts. I see that you took that one to task for ridiculing a remark about the sun and moon sizes, showing that what we said is correct, and atheopaths joined in to make excuses. United in hate, how touching. Intellectually dishonest, of course. -CBB".

Well done lads. Much easier than a serious discussion about biology. And everyone else can see what you have got. Lots of hate.

So I won't waste my time reporting this violation of their community standards to Facebook. I'll just send another email exposing these fascists for what they are.

[a_haworthroberts]

http://www.icr.org/article/10196
"All that is observed is a sudden change in the types of fossils from one sedimentary layer to the next and the preservation of trillions of animals and plants globally." A violent global flood could not do that.
"Clearly, volcanism, lava sills and flows, meteoric and tectonic activity, were rife during the Flood year and many decades afterward." Not in the book of Genesis they aren't.
"So-called extinctions are merely a consequence of the Flood suddenly depositing different animals and plants in subsequent layers as the Flood waters rose higher and higher." Oh no they aren't.

But Cowboy Bob Sorensen likes the article:
http://www.piltdownsuperman.com/2017/11 ... tions.html
"Worse for them, their [secular scientists'] conjectures fail to address observed evidence...". In what way Bob? DO tell. Meanwhile creationists would prefer the geological record to be a complete jumbled up mess and all in rock layers that date as only thousands of years old. But there we are.

[a_haworthroberts]

https://www.facebook.com/Piltdown.Superman/
"Despite tinhorns that say this is the "Death knell for young earth creationism" and have no idea about science or theology (as well as possessing the hubris to think that one item can bring down all of creation science and the Word of God), it belongs in the "No Big Deal Department". -CBB"

Already knew that Sorensen is a pathological delusional authoritarian bigoted and utterly cowardly liar. But there's further proof for us all.

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3837
Answer me, liar Bob. HOW LONG do you think it took for Oumuamua to travel from its original solar system to ours? And WHY.

[a_haworthroberts]

Whether or not you answer it's checkmate, Bob (ask your friend Dr Sarfati what that means).

PS I've also commented here (as my Facebook purgatory appears to have come to an end):
https://www.facebook.com/TQEPDebunked

[a_haworthroberts]

Emails as sent to Bob and co:

(1) at 22.30 hrs GMT
"YEC Bob Sorensen has been making a bigoted fool of himself. Again. Photo attached:

"Despite tinhorns that say this is the "Death knell for young earth creationism" and have no idea about science or theology (as well as possessing the hubris to think that one item can bring down all of creation science and the Word of God), it belongs in the "No Big Deal Department". -CBB"

Er NO, Bob. It's a very BIG deal. It's the FALSIFICATION of young earth creationism (which purports to be 'biblical' and indeed it often IS biblical - though not all Christians agree).
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=3153&p=51769#p51769

Read on Bob. I have SUPPORTED my original claim (since your Facebook rant).

Sorensen - who claims to approve of 'critical thinking' will NEVER answer my question about the asteroid Oumuamua. And CARRY ON saying that I'm a stupid 'tinhorn'.

Answer me, liar Bob. HOW LONG do you think it took for Oumuamua to travel from its original solar system to ours? And WHY."


(2) at 23.25 hrs GMT
"Sorensen's pretence at an answer to my question is shown in the attached photograph (what else can you expect from a delusional fraud in denial of reality):
"Speaking of atheist excuses (a "meme" was posted elsewhere in a comment area), the tinhorn mentioned above chose to completely miss the point and cling to his blind faith:

"Already knew that Sorensen is a pathological delusional authoritarian bigoted and utterly cowardly liar. But there's further proof for us all.

"viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3837
"Answer me, liar Bob. HOW LONG do you think it took for Oumuamua to travel from its original solar system to ours? And WHY."

See? Chooses to miss the point: no big deal for this space object, scientists don't know everything, and it one thing will NOT, ain't no way, nohow, destroy God's Word and all of creation science. -CBB"

This evil hypocritical devious person also WITHHOLDS these links from his 'fans':
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3837
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=3153&p=51769#p51769

Care to defend Sorensen's behaviour, anybody? Or speculate as to what 'point' I 'chose' to 'miss'? At the links Sorensen FAILS to provide to his readers.

We all know what question Sorensen DARE not answer. Because he would make even more of a fool of himself if he DID answer it."

[a_haworthroberts]

Now remind me again why Sorensen refuses to properly and honestly debate with people like me.

[a_haworthroberts]

Email as sent this evening:

"Facebook fascists.

They have banned me for 30 DAYS for - allegedly because I violated their 'community standards' - for making the following post on somebody else's page ie not even on a page set up by me:
""They fail to realize that when calling someone a liar without evidence makes the accuser into the liar. " Good job I always provide evidence when calling Sorensen a liar (whether at the BCSE community forum or via email). Evidence he always ignores. Because he is a liar."
Meanwhile the real person violating Facebook community standards, the fascist Curtis Long (the person who keeps complaining about my posts at The Question Evolution Project Debunked), gets away with posts like the following (not addressed to me) at this page:
https://www.facebook.com/TQEPDebunked
"If you weren't such a frigging narcissistic bigot you might actually read the material. The point you made had nothing to do with what they said. And not everything they post is about YOU, pinhead. If you read the articles posted which you conveniently left off this share you'd see that there are a lot of people who say that Hitler was a Christian. You'd approve since you like lies and promote them. Google Hitler was a creationist and you'll find more. Get over yourself. Get a job."
"Maybe if you develop the courage to stop lying, start engaging the content instead of throwing dung from your cage, stop lying about your identity, stop lying about why you got your butt banned, start learning how to use reason, maybe you could begin to be respectable enough to be considered worthy of debate material."
Facebook can rot in hell for all I care. They ban anti-fascists whilst letting fascists run amok.
Meanwhile I will continue to debunk The Question Evolution Project - who REFUSE to answer any questions about the asteroid Oumuamua - at the BCSE page."

Take a good look at the material Sorensen posts on his blogs and Facebook pages. You will soon see that he arrogantly makes up 'facts' and regards them as gospel truth - and then attacks anyone who challenges or ignores the clearly made-up facts. (He also posts links to his PAST claims as though he was citing real, scientific, peer-reviewed material.) Such as in these three examples, all posted on his main Facebook page over the last couple of days - see https://www.facebook.com/Piltdown.Superman/
(1)
"... Creationists have explained about dinosaurs (and the other critters) on the Ark many times. There is something else to consider: there weren't as many as people thought. A fossil would be found, maybe some bones, and then it would be classified. But it turns out that several could merge into one because several that were classified belonged to the same species at different stages of development.
Learn the details here:
http://www.piltdownsuperman.com/2015/10 ... m=facebook"
(2)
"... Although there is a form of global warming, it is not anthropomorphic, and it is insignificant in the last fifteen years...
Judge the evidence here:
http://www.piltdownsuperman.com/2015/10 ... m=facebook"
(3)
"According to evolutionary mythology, humans evolved in Africa. Neanderthals were not partially-evolved brutes, but fully human. "Archaic humans" also had a way of getting around, and there is evidence that they were going into Africa — which is a mite disconcerting for evolutionary paleontologists, but not a problem for biblical creationists.
The true, detailed history of human migration is found in Genesis, not evolutionary speculations...
Examine the details here:
http://www.piltdownsuperman.com/2015/10 ... m=facebook"

If this bigot could defend his claims he would not need to ruthlessly censor ALL those who disagree with them from his Facebook pages.

He's part of a wider religious cult that is determined to tell professing Christians what they should NOT think.

[CHartsil]

Just make a secondary account. I make accounts all the time.