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'Is Genesis History' Movie

Postby MisterGordons » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:33 am

Since I am not allowed to post about the 'Is Genesis History?' movie in the appropriate location I shall do it here.

The movie was more successful than was expected. It was slated for one night only. It was given two more nights. The video is scheduled to be released in April.

Here is a write-up at 'Creation Today' http://creationtoday.org/is-genesis-his ... entations/
Here is a review by Dr. David Coppedge http://crev.info/2017/02/genesis-hits-the-big-screen/
Here is a review at 'The Institute for Creation Research' http://www.icr.org/article/9868
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Re: 'Is Genesis History' Movie

Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:53 pm

Have you watched it (I have not as I am unaware that it is available in the UK, even online - short of paying)?

I did start a separate thread about it, based on information that has been posted online. I note that EVERY expert consulted by the makers of the film already believes in a 'young Earth'.
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Re: 'Is Genesis History' Movie

Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:03 pm

According to Coppedge:
"Del is founder of The Truth Project, a popular worldview apologetics course. In 2008, Del was among two dozen Bible scholars who participated in a special scholar’s rafting trip through the Grand Canyon sponsored by Canyon Ministries. I was on that trip and got to know Del, finding him to be a humble, godly, and very intelligent man, an excellent teacher who is genuinely interested in scientific questions. It appears that trip was very stimulating for him and all the other Bible scholars. We all saw profound evidence for the Flood with our own eyes as veteran guide Tom Vail steered us down the river. Details of the evidence were expounded by PhD geologist Andrew Snelling, who is also prominent in the film. Perhaps that trip was a turning point in Del’s thinking to take him beyond mere Biblical apologetics into full embrace of the historical Genesis."

And I will wager that - as I have alluded to in another thread - the film fails to mention that no dinosaur fossils have been found at the Grand Canyon, let alone attempts any explanation of this interesting truth. I suspect that most of the experts consulted are aware of this, whereas Tackett probably is not - and thus would not seek a reaction or explanation from the likes of Snelling and Vail.

Talking of the Grand Canyon:
https://discourse.biologos.org/t/is-gen ... ists/35227
http://biologos.org/blogs/guest/a-geolo ... is-history
http://biologos.org/blogs/archive/flood ... really-say

The Grand Canyon is certainly evidence of geological events and processes in the past and present. Whether this includes a 'recent worldwide flood' is however highly debatable.


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Re: 'Is Genesis History' Movie

Postby archaeologist55 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:20 pm

I have read about it. maybe I will check those links out to get more information
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Re: 'Is Genesis History' Movie

Postby Peter Henderson » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:13 pm

More for Cowboy Bob from Biologos:

http://biologos.org/blogs/guest/a-forme ... is-history

Moreover, Is Genesis History? (hereafter, IGH) fails to represent scientists and theologians within the broader evangelical Christian community who hold alternative views on science and faith. Not only did Hugh Ross’ Reasons to Believe ministry fail to obtain a hearing for its acceptance of a 13.78-billion-year-old cosmos, but the movie’s producer ensured that the sole Discovery Institute representative, Paul Nelson, did not publicly acknowledge his role as a Fellow of this organization in either the movie or its accompanying e-book. In fact, rarely throughout the movie are alternative views on science and faith even discussed. The most substantial exception is the panel discussion tacked onto the end of the movie, but even then, the “theistic evolution” view is grossly misrepresented - See more at: http://biologos.org/blogs/guest/a-forme ... pg1JE.dpuf
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Re: 'Is Genesis History' Movie

Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:53 pm

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Re: 'Is Genesis History' Movie

Postby a_haworthroberts » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:04 pm

So this movie was 'not' indoctrination dressed up as science? Really?

http://isgenesishistory.com/notes/key-t ... cientists/
They are starting by presuming a 'Flood'.

False dichotomies from Tackett. Pseudo-scientific soundbites from Austin. Waffle about alleged competing 'paradigms' from Nelson. A few unexceptional comments from Boyd about the opening chapters in Genesis. Misleading claims by Snelling about 'anomalies in these dating methods'. Claims by Wise of several previous epochs in Earth history during which (because eg the 'Fall' and then the 'Flood' and then the 'Ice Age' had not yet happened) the 'structure of the laws of the universe' were different to now in ways that we cannot comprehend other than through viewing rocks in the light of Bible texts. Soundbites from Ross about most fossils having their origin in the judgment of the (worldwide) 'Flood' with eg whole 'ecosystems' allegedly being transported from one place to another and supposedly being 'deposited in massive layers on top of each other'. A claim by taphonomist Chadwick (is it supported by peer reviewed science) that "an examination of an actual [dinosaur] 'bone bed' reveals unique aspects that could only occur during a global flood". A controversial (among scientists working in this field) claim by Anderson that soft tissue in dinosaur bones is in 'violation of the dating process'. Claims by Carter (do these sit well with what Wise says about how we are allegedly not in God's original 'epoch' but three epochs later) that DNA and genomes show that "such highly-engineered structures and relationships can only exist if they are created simultaneously in a short space of time". A suggestion by Wood that "changes between kinds have not been observed" ergo evolution eg of some dinosaurs into some birds cannot have occurred. A suggestion by Faulkner that while stars have a 'purpose' (our star is certainly very useful) at the same time "no one theory [that would include anything so far put forward by YEC astronomers] seems to explain everything" in the universe. A suggestion by Petrovich that an unfinished tower known as the tower of Babel might have been located at an archaeological site within modern Iraq known as Eridu. Comments by a pastor named Grant that the book of Genesis has real 'historical moorings'. And a further, incredible, claim by Tackett that "nothing in the world makes sense except in the light of Genesis" (not even all Christians, who presumably all regard Genesis as important literature, agree on how to interpret it - because of what is seen in 'the world').

This is what viewers of this movie are supposed to 'take away' from it. It's indoctrination. And an appeal to carry on believing what you probably already want to believe when it comes to geology and the like.
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Re: 'Is Genesis History' Movie

Postby a_haworthroberts » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:22 pm

More here (posted on 21 March but only just read):
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php? ... 3031042432
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