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CHartsil wrote:Does anyone know of one single creationist run facebook page or youtube channel that does not engage in censorship?
I can't think of any stronger cognitive dissonance than holding a position that you yourself recognize cannot stand up to scrutiny.
archaeologist55 wrote:CHartsil wrote:Does anyone know of one single creationist run facebook page or youtube channel that does not engage in censorship?
I can't think of any stronger cognitive dissonance than holding a position that you yourself recognize cannot stand up to scrutiny.
it is called editing not censorship. Creationists are free to place on their website the content they want to have and they do not need the permission of those who disagree with them to edit what information is placed on their pages. I know of far too many non-creationist sites that do the exact same thing or they ban you outright with no chance to defend yourself.
i wouldn't throw stones when your glass house is vulnerable.
a_haworthroberts wrote:archaeologist55 wrote:CHartsil wrote:Silent editing or selective censorship of the opposition, unless the person has behaved in an appalling abusive fashion and failed to back up their accusations with facts, is reprehensible. If YECs have the truth about everything it should not be necessary either.
archaeologist55 wrote:One cannot say that another person does not have facts when they simply disagree with the views of those who oppose them. it has to be pre-determined and agreed upon where those facts come from and since non-creationists go to secular science for their 'facts' and the creationist doesn't there will always be a discrepancy and contradiction on what is a fact.
YEC people obey God and while we have access to facts, we also have to use faith and faith tells us that all the facts will not be known at this time. it will also tell us that secular science does not have the facts because the adherents of that research field propose an alternative and they use their scientific investigation to support their work not God's or the words of the Bible. They use their 'facts' , as they believe them to be, to thwart biblical teaching while assuming that their 'facts' are correct. Rarely do they acknowledge that their facts are false or untrue. They take their scientific work over God's word and that is their mistake not God's or the YEC person.
it is not the Christian who is deceived by evil.
it has to be pre-determined and agreed upon where those facts come from and since non-creationists go to secular science for their 'facts' and the creationist doesn't there will always be a discrepancy and contradiction on what is a fact.
ProfessorTertius wrote:Many Young Earth Creationists go so far as to try and redefine what's a fact. Ham wants to redefine the word "science" to mean "just knowledge." That way absolutely anything can be masqueraded as science and therefore credible. They want to gain the credibility of science without actually DOING science. (And they want to redefine evolution as "religion" so that it is pulled down to their level--- and then they can start promoting their own personal religion as if it were science.)
There is no such thing as secular science. YECism is a religious, not a scientific, position.
Strange, isn't it, that creationists always claim that their position is science but always have to tell us what their religion is.
Give it up David. You are just making a fool of yourself. Besides, I did not invite you here. You expressed a wish to come here - which I supported. But you have failed to post anything that refutes anything I wrote about your recent blog post of 22 Dec.
I suggest you either start engaging with the points we are making and stop making a fool of yourself. Or retreat to the safety of your own blog (where you will no doubt continue to censor any comments I might submit there).
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