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Death knell for young earth creationism

Postby a_haworthroberts » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:24 am

An alien asteroid named Oumuamua.
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Re: Death knell for young earth creationism

Postby a_haworthroberts » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:15 pm

https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/ ... -asteroid/
"Does this mean that the discovery of 1I ‘Oumuamua proves the evolutionary paradigm?" It DISPROVES young earth creationism - which strongly suggests that the 'evolutionary paradigm' is correct. It is IMPOSSIBLE that this asteroid could have travelled from the orbit of another star to less than one astronomical unit from our sun - which is what the 'evolutionary paradigm' says happened - in 6,000 years or less. IMPOSSIBLE. I did the maths.
"... the discovery of 1I ‘Oumuamua is consistent with what we know about creation". It may be consistent with 'creation' but it TOTALLY falsifies young earth creationism.

Even if the solar system is also travelling through space at an average speed of 515,000 mph and 'scooped up' a (slower moving) asteroid that was not heading directly in our direction.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style ... 66656.html
"Moving at 95,000 kilometres per hour (59,030 mph), Oumuamua was at first thought to have travelled from the bright star Vega, 25 light years away in the northern constellation of Lyra.
But Vega was not even close to its present position 300,000 years ago, when its journey would have started."
"Dr Karen Meech, from the Institute for Astronomy in Hawaii, said: "Oumuamua may well have been wandering through the Milky Way, unattached to any star system, for hundreds of millions of years before its chance encounter with the solar system.""

Young earth creationism destroyed by an alien asteroid. Who would have imagined that?

Of course the delusional YECs will probably continue to deny that it's checkmate.
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Re: Death knell for young earth creationism

Postby a_haworthroberts » Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:40 pm

But of course most young earth creationists are angry bigoted fools who are in denial of reality:
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=3153&p=51769#p51769 (new posts at 22.18, 22.42 and 23.27 pm)

His equally angry sidekick Curtis Long recently told The Question Evolution Project Debunked that Sorensen has "defeated you and that other jeering monkey Hitler-Robbers many times over". This is how the cowardly fraud Sorensen defeats me. By calling me a 'tinhorn' and then REFUSING to answer my questions and then - repeat repeat repeat ...
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Re: Death knell for young earth creationism

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:55 pm

Hmm. Hardline YEC and former NASA employee David Coppedge appears to be studiously avoiding the subject of inter-stellar asteroid Oumuamua ...
https://crev.info/
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Re: Death knell for young earth creationism

Postby a_haworthroberts » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:26 pm

https://www.facebook.com/AiG.UKE/
"What is the significance of the discovery of the first interstellar asteroid?"

That our solar system (and the one where this asteroid first existed) cannot be just 6,000 years old.
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Re: Death knell for young earth creationism

Postby a_haworthroberts » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:10 pm

New post here just now. Sorensen fans - can YOU answer the question Sorensen REFUSES to answer?
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Re: Death knell for young earth creationism

Postby a_haworthroberts » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:36 pm

http://www.piltdownsuperman.com/2018/02 ... lures.html 'Embarrassing Astronomical Failures.'
"... biblical creationists are not having problems with the evidence". Pathological liar. Asteroid Oumuamua destroys young earth/universe creationism (if you can destroy something that has already been destroyed by material and scientific reality). So you will have to 'question evolution' in an extremely old universe, Bob. As will that bigot David Coppedge - who tries to ignore that inconvenient interstellar asteroid (the one that Danny Faulkner and then Bob have made foolish and incredible comments about - and all other YECs would prefer not to talk about).

This site - no censorship, open to all!

Bob's pages - any posts like this one are routinely zapped (and his crazed followers got that Facebook page that sought to debunk Bob banned even though they claimed its author was a fool).

So this has a hypocritical hollow ring to it (I was going to ignore it but seeing that Bob has LIED again I might as well mention it):
http://www.biblecreation.com/2018/02/te ... nists.html

So - back to 'Piltdown Superman' - because astronomers don't know everything therefore 'biblical creationists' are right and never have any problems with evidence. YEC lying 'logic' for you.

Bob and his followers cause as much damage to the reputation of Christianity as the most militant of atheists. I strongly suspect.
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Death knell for young earth creationism

Postby a_haworthroberts » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:24 pm

Among other things.

This is very interesting:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09rvpts
"The Mystery of 'Oumuamua - The Sky at Night:
In October 2017, astronomers made a spectacular discovery - they spotted the first ever object to visit our solar system from outer space. They gave it a suitably exotic name... 'Oumuamua. Its discovery set off a hurricane of press speculation and a major scientific investigation.
To investigate this spectacular astronomical detective story, The Sky at Night goes to Queen's University in Belfast, which has become the centre of scientific research on this cosmic visitor. When they first spotted it, all scientists knew was that it was small, it was travelling fast, and it came from outside our solar system.
Its discovery provoked a host of questions. What did it look like? How had it formed? What was it made of? Where had it come from? To answer these questions, the team pieces together all the clues that scientists have extracted from the small amounts of data collected as 'Oumuamua flashed through the solar system.
This forensic analysis - including exclusive new revelations - means we can now piece together the most comprehensive picture yet of this extraordinary object."

Its last port of call (if not its place of origin) may be the 'local association' of stars/Pleiades moving group of stars - thought to have formed around 100 million years ago (give or take).

And it's tumbling as well.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-43018706
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Re: Death knell for young earth creationism

Postby Brian Jordan » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:01 am

a_haworthroberts wrote:This is very interesting:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09rvpts
"The Mystery of 'Oumuamua - The Sky at Night:
In October 2017, astronomers made a spectacular discovery - they spotted the first ever object to visit our solar system from outer space.."
Sub-editing these days is terrible. The programme actually said that it was the first such object to be spotted and speculated that there are a large number of them within the soalar system at any one time.
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Re: Death knell for young earth creationism

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:19 pm

Brian Jordan wrote:
a_haworthroberts wrote:This is very interesting:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09rvpts
"The Mystery of 'Oumuamua - The Sky at Night:
In October 2017, astronomers made a spectacular discovery - they spotted the first ever object to visit our solar system from outer space.."
Sub-editing these days is terrible. The programme actually said that it was the first such object to be spotted and speculated that there are a large number of them within the soalar system at any one time.



I'm happy with the one that has been spotted. YECs can't use the 'Oort Cloud argument' against that one.
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Re: Death knell for young earth creationism

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Re: Death knell for young earth creationism

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue May 29, 2018 10:40 pm

A YEC (who knows about Oumuamua but is still a YEC mainly I presume for strong religious reasons) suggested to me via email that perhaps God created Oumuamua out in interstellar space quite near our solar system - rather than coming close to our sun recently after originating from another star many trillions of miles away. I do not find that scientifically plausible.

Would God, or the aftermath of the big bang, have created primordial 'interstellar' asteroids (Oumuamua at least has a bizarre cigar shape with might result from gravitational effects as a nearby Jupiter-like gas giant in its host solar system possibly ejected it) out in deep interstellar space 'between' stars. Is it not more plausible that Oumuamua has spent a lot of time in interstellar space merely because it was ejected from an original host solar system?

More here (and scientists don't and perhaps can't know everything about Oumuamua or 2015 BZ509):
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/small- ... lar-system
https://astronomynow.com/2018/03/19/int ... ar-system/
https://www.space.com/40116-interstella ... ories.html
https://www.space.com/39129-oumuamua-in ... guise.html
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Re: Death knell for young earth creationism

Postby a_haworthroberts » Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:26 pm

It now sounds like it was an interstellar comet named Oumuamua.
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