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Postby jon_12091 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:51 pm

Actually a bit more nuanced than the headline suggests, but I do find myself agreeing with his basic thesis...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/o ... WEML6619I2
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Postby Brian Jordan » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:56 pm

It doesn't seem to mention the pope's attitude to abiogenesis. Can we assume that he accepts it as a natural step between creation and evolution, or does he confuse it with evolution like our YEC friends?
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Postby jon_12091 » Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:10 pm

My understanding is that Catholicism’s hang ups are around 'ensoulment' rather than the moment of the creation of life.
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Postby Brian Jordan » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:05 pm

jon_12091 wrote:My understanding is that Catholicism’s hang ups are around 'ensoulment' rather than the moment of the creation of life.
My understanding is that until recently that was the position of most Muslims, too. But they, also, have a literalist wing.
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Postby cathy » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:32 am

That's the understanding of my Muslim friends as well. Even point to bit in Qu'ran about man being created in stages. Never issues with evolution till recently.

Seems science denial is the natural pal of nasty extremism. A control thing perhaps?
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Postby Brian Jordan » Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:40 pm

cathy wrote:That's the understanding of my Muslim friends as well. Even point to bit in Qu'ran about man being created in stages. Never issues with evolution till recently.

Seems science denial is the natural pal of nasty extremism. A control thing perhaps?
Perhaps its a case of absolutism: they know everything and demand to be believed. Science can't be allowed to reveal the slightest chink in their armour.
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