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To frack or not to frack?

Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:37 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03yn6xt (as yet I have not listened to the programme)
"The Environment
Duration: 30 minutes
First broadcast: Monday 24 March 2014
A new word has entered into our common vocabulary recently. Fracking is the process whereby shale gas can be released from beneath the earth's surface. On the one hand, it's argued that fracking could give us enough gas to meet our short to medium term energy needs; on the other hand, there are those who fear it will do lasting environmental damage. How do you balance short term needs with long term environmental priorities? Western Christianity has been accused of promoting an exploitative relationship with the environment. Has Religion anything to contribute to the debate?
Joining Ernie Rea are the Rev Michael Roberts, who trained as a geologist; Martin Palmer, Founder of the Alliance of Religions and Conservation: and the Rev Chris Halliwell, Rural and Environment Officer for the Diocese of Blackburn."
http://michaelroberts4004.wordpress.com ... ancashire/

Personally I think we need shale gas/fracking along with renewables, nuclear and other established forms of power generation, and that climate change has not gone away. I recently commented on fracking after a viewer vote (by One Show viewers or claimed viewers) against it:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbpointsofview ... &skip=3350 (message 3375)

Big UN Climate report due this Monday.

But of course Ken Ham and co will claim it's all a big 'con' and that we are simply recovering from a recent 'post-Flood ice age'.
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Re: To frack or not to frack?

Postby Brian Jordan » Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:09 pm

Thanks Ashley. And Michael too!
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Re: To frack or not to frack?

Postby jon_12091 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:33 pm

a_haworthroberts wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03yn6xt (as yet I have not listened to the programme)
"The Environment
Duration: 30 minutes
First broadcast: Monday 24 March 2014
A new word has entered into our common vocabulary recently. Fracking is the process whereby shale gas can be released from beneath the earth's surface. On the one hand, it's argued that fracking could give us enough gas to meet our short to medium term energy needs; on the other hand, there are those who fear it will do lasting environmental damage. How do you balance short term needs with long term environmental priorities? Western Christianity has been accused of promoting an exploitative relationship with the environment. Has Religion anything to contribute to the debate?
Joining Ernie Rea are the Rev Michael Roberts, who trained as a geologist; Martin Palmer, Founder of the Alliance of Religions and Conservation: and the Rev Chris Halliwell, Rural and Environment Officer for the Diocese of Blackburn."
http://michaelroberts4004.wordpress.com ... ancashire/

Listened but only got half-way through - interesting (but a bit dry - sorry Michael)
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Re: To frack or not to frack?

Postby cathy » Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:12 pm

Was listening to that on way home from work never realising it was our Michael, the bit I caught was really interesting. Will now go listen to the rest.
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Re: To frack or not to frack?

Postby a_haworthroberts » Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:01 pm

As well as some further blog posts from Michael about fracking, today we have a post from Brian Thomas of the ICR informing us where (and from what period of Earth history) shale gas must have come from ...

http://michaelroberts4004.wordpress.com/
http://www.icr.org/article/8035/
I wonder if shale gas occurs on any other nearby planet or moon that we know did not experience a worldwide flood of H2O within the last 10,000 years. Maybe not (though we know that methane occurs elsewhere eg Mars and as far as I know both methane and shale gas are sometimes referred to as 'natural gas'). But I think Earth's shale gas is considered to be formed as a result of past life - and for all we know Mars has never harboured any life. So I suppose - if the methane on Mars is not the result of past life - on that planet a 'Noahic' flood was not 'necessary' to produce it.
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