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A creationist cult at work in Scotland?

Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:48 pm

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Re: A creationist cult at work in Scotland?

Postby psiloiordinary » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:06 am

Paul is featured in the print edition. We are already involved in this one.
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Re: A creationist cult at work in Scotland?

Postby Michael » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:42 am

It is appearing all over the place
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Re: A creationist cult at work in Scotland?

Postby Paul Braterman » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:21 am

Children in Scottish state school given books showing dinosaurs pulling carts for humans and describing evolution as a lie. Gift from Church of Christ sect evangelist who had been school chaplain for 8 years, imported assistants from US, and discussed the Religious Education syllabus (which is supposed to be objective and dogma-free) with the head teacher:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scott ... lt-2254926

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scott ... da-2257799

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/t ... -1-3081113

http://stonypointchurchofchrist.com/mis ... 9-alex.pdf

http://www.christian-worker.org.uk/dire ... p?cid=1473
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Re: A creationist cult at work in Scotland?

Postby a_haworthroberts » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:57 pm

It's mentioned here too (not yet read so this may repeat facts already outlined above):
http://leavingfundamentalism.wordpress. ... #more-1625
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Re: A creationist cult at work in Scotland?

Postby Brian Jordan » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:15 pm

Paul Braterman wrote:Children in Scottish state school given books showing dinosaurs pulling carts for humans and describing evolution as a lie. Gift from Church of Christ sect evangelist who had been school chaplain for 8 years, imported assistants from US, and discussed the Religious Education syllabus (which is supposed to be objective and dogma-free) with the head teacher:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scott ... lt-2254926

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scott ... da-2257799

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/t ... -1-3081113

http://stonypointchurchofchrist.com/mis ... 9-alex.pdf

http://www.christian-worker.org.uk/dire ... p?cid=1473
We can now add
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/school-bosses-kick-out-extremist-2257795
Where politicians belatedly jump on board.
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Re: A creationist cult at work in Scotland?

Postby a_haworthroberts » Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:58 pm

The Church of Christ I encountered more than 15 years ago believed in baptismal regeneration - not sure whether these are the same group though.

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Re: A creationist cult at work in Scotland?

Postby Brian Jordan » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:24 pm

a_haworthroberts wrote:The Church of Christ I encountered more than 15 years ago believed in baptismal regeneration - not sure whether these are the same group though.

http://www.apologeticspress.org/store/P ... px?pid=448
http://www.apologeticspress.org/kb.aspx
Without following the links, that it's Apologetics Press says "yes". (They've a lot to apologise for to those dinosaurs, maltreating the poor beasts like that.)
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Re: A creationist cult at work in Scotland?

Postby a_haworthroberts » Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:05 pm

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Re: A creationist cult at work in Scotland

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:13 pm

http://bcseweb.blogspot.co.uk/
New article entitled on this story, about what the kids were apparently being taught.
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Re: A creationist cult at work in Scotland

Postby Brian Jordan » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:39 pm

a_haworthroberts wrote:http://bcseweb.blogspot.co.uk/
New article entitled on this story, about what the kids were apparently being taught.
Come back, Flintstones, we always knew you were a documentary! :twisted:
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Re: A creationist cult at work in Scotland

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:42 pm

Brian Jordan wrote:
a_haworthroberts wrote:http://bcseweb.blogspot.co.uk/
New article entitled on this story, about what the kids were apparently being taught.
Come back, Flintstones, we always knew you were a documentary! :twisted:


I meant to delete the word 'entitled' (copied from an email I sent to Professor Tertius who I've mentioned in other posts).
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Re: A creationist cult at work in Scotland?

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:33 pm

I've made my very first (and last?!) post on Ken Ham's Facebook page. It responds to queries - under his comment complaining about the Sunday Times evolution poster - about the Kirktonholme Primary School and what was taught to the kids there.

My post reads as follows:
"It is NOT a Christian school (any more than other UK non-denominational state schools not affiliated to - in the case of Scotland which is different to England - the Roman Catholic Church): http://www.kirktonholme-pri.s-lanark.sch.uk/
Meanwhile Ken Ham wanted this info: http://bcseweb.blogspot.co.uk/"

I've also taken a screenshot with my cheapo camera in case the factual post gets censored.
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Re: A creationist cult at work in Scotland?

Postby Brian Jordan » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:16 am

Ashley, you can easily do better than photographing the screen. If you press the print screen (or prtscr) key then open, say, a Word document, pressing CTRL/V will paste the whole screen into your document.
I'm not sure which page you are trying to preserve though - the school site doesn't seem to say that it's a wholly state school (which it is) and we're not going to censor our own blog!
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Re: A creationist cult at work in Scotland?

Postby a_haworthroberts » Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:04 pm

I have been censored and silently banned by Ken Ham or his cronies for giving him the info he asked for on his Facebook page. See the main 'rabble rouser' thread for details (post at 11.49 pm and following).
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