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Mitt Romney lost because hardline Republicans betrayed him

Postby ukantic » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:14 pm

The Tea Party zealots, homophobes and misogynists hijacked Romney's campaign – and threaten the Republican party's future


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... picks=true

Like this bit:

The big lesson for Republicans from this election is that extremism does not pay.

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Postby Roger Stanyard » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:27 pm

ukantic wrote:
The Tea Party zealots, homophobes and misogynists hijacked Romney's campaign – and threaten the Republican party's future


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... picks=true

Like this bit:

The big lesson for Republicans from this election is that extremism does not pay.



The religious fundamentalists have had a huge impact on the Republican Party - introducing bigotry and ignorance as bedrock principals, introducing demonisation of all opposition and turning the party into a collection of incompetent ideologues.
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Postby cathy » Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:10 pm

Apparently even George Bush had said they were too right wing. :D :D Good result but what was scarey was how much of the vote they actually got and how close it ended up being. Given how utterly bonkers and backward they were.
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Postby Roger Stanyard » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:47 pm

cathy wrote:Apparently even George Bush had said they were too right wing. :D :D Good result but what was scarey was how much of the vote they actually got and how close it ended up being. Given how utterly bonkers and backward they were.


Yes, much of the USA is seriously socially backward and is paying a huge economic price for it. But it seems to me that Romney's failure wasn't a marginal problem but huge. Given the state of the US economy he should have won with a landslide but got nowhere near it.

The Repugs had painted themselves into a corner by insulting and alienating huge swaths of the US population - the 47% of alleged welfare scroungers, women, blacks, hispanics, the young, the well education, scientists, the media, asians, progressives, immigrants.... They also alienated on a geographic basis - the intellectual powerhouses of the North East and West Coast. What they had left as supporters were aging, bitter, angry, racist white men, disproportionately in rural areas and the deep south.

The Republicans got what they deserved, a jolly good kick in the goolies.

So basically what is left as the core of the Republican movement is a bunch of sectarian bigots who have long lost the plot and libertarians who couldn't run a whelk stall. Indeed, as far as I can make out, the Republican party is now the party of the deep south. It has become a party smarting over the Civil War and racist to boot. It's a big part of the US electorate but a lost cause, backward and increasingly irrelevant.

Yer, the Republicans are going to be obstructive as hell in Congress in the next two years but the population of the USA is increasingly fed up with them. They are living on borrowed times, tilting at windmills.

I've been in the USA numerous times and what never fails to amaze me is that, outside of the North East/Upper mid West and West Coast, how stunningly socially backward it is. It's like rural Ireland in the 1950s except rural Ireland was (and is) outward looking, has moved on from the 50s and doesn't want to go back.
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Postby cathy » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:12 pm

I liked this from the 20p i paper today (we used to have the Guardian and the Times in the staff room every day- now due to cut backs we are reduced to one 20p paper - thank you Michael Gove).

For all that, there seems little overtly random about Romney’s loss. He was driven so far rightward during the primaries, by Murdoch’s parallel universe merchants at Fox and their useful Tea Party idiots, that his sprint back to the sane centre came too late. For that Pyrrhic nomination victory, he had to pander to the nutters in countless ways, most fatally by demonising illegal immigrants. No Republican will win the White House again without building bridges with the burgeoning Latino demographic. Romney burned the few that survived from Dubya, and self-combusted.

I am tempted, atheistically, to thank God that he has been denied the opportunity to start the third world war in Iran. But God – or the white supremacist version of those with no taste for the Sermon on the Mount – took a hiding Himself. Three quarters of weekly churchgoers voted for Romney, and roughly the same number of infidels for Obama. Among so much evidence of a monstrously divided electorate, that stands out. The Creationists, evangelicals and bible-quoting gay-bashers, who won it for Bush in 2004, have lost their power.


Just liked that last bit.
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Postby ukantic » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:11 am

More of the same here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/no ... omens-vote

This shouldn't have been surprising. The Obama campaign had hammered away at Romney's record on women in pointed campaign ads from way back, targeting the customary staples – Romney's opposition to Roe v Wade, abortion under any circumstance and insurance coverage for contraception – so comprehensively that the danger became one of reduced impact through overexposure.

The surprise on Tuesday night was that, after such a long, repetitive and exhausting campaign, Republicans managed to refresh these arguments in such enduringly wacky ways as to provoke a kind of awe. You could only laugh as the coverage revisited them; in Missouri, let's hear it one more time for Todd Akin and his "legitimate rape" discourse; for Richard Mourdock in Indiana (babies born of rape are a "gift from God"); in the Pennsylvania Senate race, for Tom Smith comparing rape to unwed motherhood, and so on and so on – for a full list, see the Atlantic Monthly's helpful round-up. As many pointed out on Twitter, it was almost as if Republicans had forgotten women could vote.
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Postby Roger Stanyard » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:50 pm

ukantic wrote:More of the same here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/no ... omens-vote

This shouldn't have been surprising. The Obama campaign had hammered away at Romney's record on women in pointed campaign ads from way back, targeting the customary staples – Romney's opposition to Roe v Wade, abortion under any circumstance and insurance coverage for contraception – so comprehensively that the danger became one of reduced impact through overexposure.

The surprise on Tuesday night was that, after such a long, repetitive and exhausting campaign, Republicans managed to refresh these arguments in such enduringly wacky ways as to provoke a kind of awe. You could only laugh as the coverage revisited them; in Missouri, let's hear it one more time for Todd Akin and his "legitimate rape" discourse; for Richard Mourdock in Indiana (babies born of rape are a "gift from God"); in the Pennsylvania Senate race, for Tom Smith comparing rape to unwed motherhood, and so on and so on – for a full list, see the Atlantic Monthly's helpful round-up. As many pointed out on Twitter, it was almost as if Republicans had forgotten women could vote.


The fundies (read creationists) are now screaming like hell - wah, wah, wah....

However, I've yet to come across just one who admits they they got it wrong. It is universal amongst them to blame someone else.

There is a complete and utter inability to either accept loss of face or self reflect. That speaks volumes about religious fundamentalism. There can be no debate with them.

They also made the GOP utterly toxic and incompetent.
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