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Postby Peter Henderson » Tue May 19, 2009 5:17 pm

Spectacular new primate fossil found:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8058154.stm

I would imagine Dr. Menton will be buisy over the next few days.
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Re: What will the YECs make of this ?

Postby Brian Jordan » Tue May 19, 2009 11:44 pm

Peter Henderson wrote:Spectacular new primate fossil found:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8058154.stm

I would imagine Dr. Menton will be buisy over the next few days.
Oh, they're on the ball, Peter. They can sniff out an over-egged pudding even more quickly than they can smell reincarnated dinosaur blood. I don't know how this particular fossil became so hyped-up, but no good will come of it. While we are not exactly doomed, it's put the public perception of evolution back quite a bit.
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Re: What will the YECs make of this ?

Postby Brian Jordan » Wed May 20, 2009 12:53 pm

Brian Jordan wrote:Oh, they're on the ball, Peter. They can sniff out an over-egged pudding even more quickly than they can smell reincarnated dinosaur blood. I don't know how this particular fossil became so hyped-up, but no good will come of it. While we are not exactly doomed, it's put the public perception of evolution back quite a bit.
And, right on cue, Ham jumps out of his lair.
World Net Daily wrote:EVOLUTION WATCH
Media blitz: 'We found missing link'
But critics say fossil frenzy is more about pushing ideology than science

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=P ... geId=98642
Ken Ham wrote:"For Attenborough to come out and say, 'We have the missing link; it's no longer missing,' only admits they haven't had missing links before this time," Ham told WND. "If evolution is so decided, why would they get all excited about one fossil that they find now, when they claim they've had proof of evolution for years?"
WND claims to be unbiassed journalism, but the article is followed by links to a couple of dozen previous anti-evolution articles.

Edited: expanded a bit.
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Postby Brian Jordan » Wed May 20, 2009 1:56 pm

There's a dissection of the Ida article and a long discussion here
http://scienceblogs.com/laelaps/2009/05 ... ling_a.php
(spotted by Al on The Science Forums.)
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Re: What will the YECs make of this ?

Postby Roger Stanyard » Wed May 20, 2009 4:56 pm

Brian Jordan wrote:
WND claims to be unbiassed journalism....


WDN is otherwise known as Wingnut Daily. It's bonkers. Notice that the only people it has spoken to to produce this report are also two leading nutters in the cretinist movement - Ken Scam and Jonathan Wells. The "unbiased" reporting doesn't extend to asking mainstream scientists what their view is.

Notice that neither Scam nor Wells appear to have been approached by reputable publications for their opinions.

Nor does Wingnut Daily point out that Wells is a member of a cult that is detested by fundies.
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Postby Peter Henderson » Wed May 20, 2009 7:00 pm

More from Ham;

http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... ssing-link

If evolution were true, there would be real transitional forms. Instead, the best “missing links” evolutionists can come up with are strikingly similar to organisms we see today, usually with the exception of minor, controversial, and inferred anatomical differences.


Because the fossil is similar to a modern lemur (a small, tailed, tree-climbing primate), it’s unlikely that creationists need any interpretation of the “missing link” other than that it was a small, tailed, probably tree-climbing, and now extinct primate—from a kind created on Day 6 of Creation Week.


Boringly predictable.
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Postby Roger Stanyard » Thu May 21, 2009 4:28 pm

Peter Henderson wrote:Boringly predictable.


It's also boring predictable that the nutters at Truth in Science are keeping quiet, otherwise their smokescreen/figleaf of Intelligent Design would be exposed for exactly what it is, young earth creationism.
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Postby Roger Stanyard » Thu May 21, 2009 4:28 pm

Roger Stanyard wrote:
Peter Henderson wrote:Boringly predictable.


It's also boringly predictable that the nutters at Truth in Science are keeping quiet, otherwise their smokescreen/figleaf of Intelligent Design would be exposed for exactly what it is, young earth creationism.
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Postby Peter Henderson » Thu May 21, 2009 7:36 pm

There was an interesting discussion about it on BBC Radio Four's Material world this afternoon:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qyyb

I think scientists are trying to play down all the hype, especially any talk of a "missing link" which they feel only plays into the hands of creationists.

There' s also something next Tues evening on BBC One
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Postby Peter Henderson » Thu May 21, 2009 7:42 pm

Yet more quotes/quotemining from AiG:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... real-story
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Re: What will the YECs make of this ?

Postby Roger Stanyard » Fri May 22, 2009 10:45 am

Peter Henderson wrote:Spectacular new primate fossil found:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8058154.stm



Bad news everyone - we've all been rumbled by this alledged "missing link" Careful observation clearly shows that the fossil is, in fact, the remains of the Pink Panther, proving beyond all reasonable doubt that the universe is only 6,000 years old.
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Postby psiloiordinary » Fri May 22, 2009 3:37 pm

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