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Postby Kekerusey » Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:38 am

This would be funny if it weren't quite so pathetic ... even if it's for pure libel grounds the guy is a convicted felon with an obvious interest in this.

RDF: Turkey bans RichardDawkins.net

Ankara - Turkish internet users have been blocked via a court order from accessing the site of prominent British biologist Richard Dawkins after complaints from lawyers for Islamic creationist author Adnan Oktar, the website of Turkish television station NTV reported on Wednesday.

A court in Istanbul ordered that Turk Telekom block access to the site and since the weekend Turkish internet users seeking the site have been redirected to a page that says in Turkish 'access to this site has been suspended in accordance with a court decision'.

NTV reported that Oktar complained he and his creationist book 'Atlas of Creation' had been defamed by comments made by Dawkins on the site.

'I am at a loss to reconcile the expensive and glossy production values of this book with the breathtaking inanity of the content,' Dawkins, a distinguished advocate of the theory of evolution, wrote on his website in July referring to the Atlas of Creation.

The book has caused controversy not just through its advocation of creationism but also through how thousands of copies of book were distributed to schools in a number of European countries.


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Re: RDF: Turkey Bans Dawkins RDF Site

Postby Roger Stanyard » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:26 am

Kyuuketsuki wrote:This would be funny if it weren't quite so pathetic ... even if it's for pure libel grounds the guy is a convicted felon with an obvious interest in this.

RDF: Turkey bans RichardDawkins.net



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It's all a bit more complicated than it sounds. The "ban" refelects a civil action in the courts and is temporary until the court case is heard. Moreover, it seems that only the main ISP/broadband provider, Turk Telekom, complied with the court order - the site appears to be readily available through other service providers. My understanding is that Turk Telekom has now "lifted" the ban but I may be wrong on that.

It is some years since I looked at the Turkish Internet sector and Turk Telekom but, IIRC, the country was progessively introducing competition to meet EU regulations so Turk Telekom has no more a monopoly on access to Internet than, say, BT.

I think there is less here than meets the eye. Richard Dawkins book, the God delusion, translated into Turkish, is a best seller in the country. Ha Ha may be a nutcase but Turkey is not an extreme fundamentalist society.
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Re: RDF: Turkey Bans Dawkins RDF Site

Postby Roger Stanyard » Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:42 pm

Kyuuketsuki wrote:This would be funny if it weren't quite so pathetic ... even if it's for pure libel grounds the guy is a convicted felon with an obvious interest in this.



Here is more info from New Humanist on the issue. Apparently Ha Ha tried to get The God Delusion banned.

http://blog.newhumanist.org.uk/2008/09/ ... ed-in.html
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Postby Kekerusey » Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:44 am

OK, though I think my remark about libel kinda covers that, thank you for the additional info and I have added comments to posts made on other sites to reflect what you say above. :)

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Now a Turkish paper's site shut down

Postby Brian Jordan » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:15 pm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oc ... publishing
He's got the whole web site of the main Turkish daily shut down.
Turkey Daily News says that it was due to a reader's comment and only happened because incompetent judges didn't know that they could force individual pages to be pulled. They add that it's the 61st site that Oktar's lawyers have had shut down/blocked.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oc ... publishing
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