Recently I've been running across the argument that DNA is a real language and thus proves God's existence since only a mind can create language.
cathy wrote:Recently I've been running across the argument that DNA is a real language and thus proves God's existence since only a mind can create language.
In addition to your argument you have the fact that real languages have evolved - I'd imagine from grunts and squeeks to simple nouns and so on to words for abstract concepts with vocabularies becoming more sophisticated alongide us becoming more sophisticated. Haven't we got hundreds more word today than even Shakespeare had?
And as you say they are totally aribitrary or there would only be one. But anyone can make up a language, you just need a lot of people to agree on your arbitrary sound for an object or concept.
They were not perfectly created at once by some caveman with 'a mind' sitting down and writing a whole dictionary (or by use of some kind of god given dictionary) which I think is the comparison with DNA that the creationists are trying to make.
So it is not really a good analogy for the creationists to use - they are totally different things and you can't really call DNA a 'language' at all. Its a bit of a false comparison for them, but they like those cos they are tricky to argue againsts. The work on abiogenesis is probably most likely to be useful I'd guess.
Brian Jordan wrote:There's quite a bit of this stuff around, but it's hard to get to grips with it since not even the creationists really know what they mean by it. It's tied in with information theory and thermodynamics and a refusal to distinguish between Shannon and Kolmogorov information - along with a willful misrepresentation of thermodynamics - by practitioners such as Werner Gitt and Andy McIntosh.
Unfortunately, IIRC I've not come across a concise comprehensive debunking of it. Maybe just because it's so slippery.
psiloiordinary wrote:If it is a language then it is simply recording the dialog between the environment and the phenotype as described in the recipe of the genotype, with a constant crackle of white noise sometimes louder sometimes quieter (genetic drift).
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