all we saying is that life does not arise spontaneously from non-living chemicals. This has been demonstrated over and over again every since Paster's first demonstration of the fact. And remember that spontaneously has no duration of time attached to it. We are not asking for evidence of life form no-life in one step. We are saying that there are no steps that get you there. Put is as many steps as you like and take as long as you like. There is no naturalistic explanation for life. And it is not just a tiny gap in the process. It is a vital step.
Marc irrelevant wafflings. It may be a vital step, but not knowing YET what it is does not actually alter all the other steps at all. It's a vital step that HAPPENED. We all know that much - even you!
It has already been pointed out abiogenesis is a complex, fiddly but small gap in a very big jigsaw indeed, from the origins of the universe, to the creation of chemicals in stars, to Earth, 'abiogenesis,' photosynthesising bacteria, evolution. It may be a vital part of the jigsaw, but the piece not being in place yet does not alter the rest of the jisgsaw at all. Understand that?
Shoving God into the abiogenesis gap will not only NOT ALTER the rest of the jigsaw one little bit it will NOT make Genesis suddenly correct, it will NOT prove dust to man or flood or 6000 year old Earth. It will change nothing else at all..
So go ahead and shove God into that particular gap. It doesn't change anything else at all. It doesn't make you suddenly right. It doesn't get rid of any of your problems nor provide positive support for your beliefs. It doesn't effect evolution one iota. It just says the bit between formation of Earth and appearance of life was magic.
And it really doesn't make God big or clever, it just makes him look rather silly in the light of everything else. It makes it look like he really cocked up on the chemistry to life part of the grand plan and had to come down to fiddle about with a magic wand to fix organic chemistry!!
But feel free to listen to C4ID and McIntoshs bullshit and shove him in that gap till he;s shoved out. I'm sure he's absolutely thrilled that the faithful are so keen to diminish him to below the level of an undergrad chemist. If I were you I'd find some cleverer friends to listen to.
Cos the 'abiogenesis is a problem for evolution' line is really rather thick if you stop for just one second to actually engage your brain and think about it. Cos the answer can always be 'well shove god in that
gap' and that ressolves it till we know better. Cos we're sure about the bits after life begins and the not knowing how does not alter that one little bit.
God of dimiinishing gaps is all you've got.