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Postby Dave Oldridge » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:31 am

On 30 Nov 2006 at 22:15, Timothy Chase wrote:

Like Genesis I and II - with their two conflicting
"chronologies" of creation.


I think it particularly perverse that those who argue that the
only foundation for morality is to be found in their
"literalist" interpretation of the Bible are the very same
people who are so willing to consistently and systematically lie
for the sake of their faith. It seems so obvious that this is
one of the most efficient ways to destroy the moral foundations
of the individual - and those that follow.

Well yes, it's the height of hypocritic hubris to insist that
only the literalist interpretation of the Bible gives a valid
morality and to then violate the commandments of Exodus in order
to defend the private interpretation of Genesis.


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Re: Salvation

Postby Paula Thomas » Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:16 am

nickh wrote:This is quite different to saying "atheists are immoral", but how can an atheist (or humanist) build an argument against, say, the "euthanasia" of the elderly once they are a drain on the resources of society?

By the way, the is not just a rhetorical question, I would like to know what others think.

I am always staggered by this argument. Surely it is not difficult to see that those of us who believe that this life is all that we have would value that life both in ourselves and others extremely highly.

That said I do believe in personal choice over death but it must be personal choice without outside influence.

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