Junk e-mail a result of the fall

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Junk e-mail a result of the fall

Postby Peter Henderson » Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:05 am

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I decided not to give one of the more explicit e-mails that i receive daily as an example !!!

Answers in Genesis ministries apparently has the answer:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/AfterEd ... aspx?id=14

Are they being serious, or is this an example of creationist humour ?
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Re: Junk e-mail a result of the fall

Postby Luke Tyler » Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:31 pm

"Cartoon Idea by Ken Ham".

I love it how every single one of his ideas has his name on it.
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Re: Junk e-mail a result of the fall

Postby Roger Stanyard » Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:25 pm

Luke Tyler wrote:"Cartoon Idea by Ken Ham".

I love it how every single one of his ideas has his name on it.



He's a martinet, Luke.
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Re: Junk e-mail a result of the fall

Postby Brian Jordan » Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:02 pm

Amusing to see that the next cartoon has Cain's son asking where his mother came from. Complete with offer to send it as a greetings card. I was sorely tempted to send it to Paul Garner. :twisted:
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Re: Junk e-mail a result of the fall

Postby Dr_GS_Hurd » Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:09 am

Brian Jordan wrote:I was sorely tempted to send it to Paul Garner. :twisted:


Mr. Garner turned out to be a major disappointment, poorly prepared, and quick to tuck his tail and run. I did get to expand my reading of creationist crap about geology, so he was at least a motivation to distract me from my current book project.

Tomorrow I am fishing.

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Re: Junk e-mail a result of the fall

Postby Peter Henderson » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:51 pm

Mr. Garner turned out to be a major disappointment, poorly prepared, and quick to tuck his tail and run


Exactly Gary.

He probably doesn't normally get that sort of thing from Christians at his talks.
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Re: Junk e-mail a result of the fall

Postby Michael » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:36 pm

Peter Henderson wrote:
Mr. Garner turned out to be a major disappointment, poorly prepared, and quick to tuck his tail and run


Exactly Gary.

He probably doesn't normally get that sort of thing from Christians at his talks.



Remember at most Creationist talks they do not give opportunities for questions
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Re: Junk e-mail a result of the fall

Postby Luke Tyler » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:40 pm

Maybe they do allow questions, but do they give answers?
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Re: Junk e-mail a result of the fall

Postby cathy » Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:58 am

The only one I attended where free Q and A was allowed, the man was torn to shreds (not literally). The ones in churches don't allow questions lest they lose their target market, Behe allowed questions but they were carefully managed so when he didnt' answer them properly (and he didn't) no opportunity was allowed to point that out.

When you come across them on forums its not only that they don't answer questions and ignore questions and refuse to acknowledge points, but that they raise unrelated and ridiculous issues. Ask Garner for evidence that the Earth is 6000 years old and he'll say thats not the question (yes it is) the question is something to do with footprints in deserts that could possibly have been underwater instead and therefore could possibly be a tiny record of Noahs flood that escaped being washed away when said flood was carving out the Grand Canyon in its lunch hour. You just know that there is no way he'd have mentioned they're evidence for Noahs flood to other geologists cos they'd have pointed out that even if he was right about said footprints, it would NOT be compelling evidence for a global flood 4000 years ago. Sadly you also know he will then have implied to his creationist groupies that it has huge significance and is a huge piece of creationist evidence. Or something equally inane and duplicitious.

Ask them why creationism should be taught as science when it hasn't been validated by any scientists and they resort to getting annoyed about removing God from the curriculum. Which seems to blatently gnore RE, which is pretty God and Gods centred as a subject, and the fact God isn't mentioned in other subjects like history or dt either because it doesn't crop up.

Or they will start pointing out that Newton was a Christian-which is an interesting fact but irrelevant to gravity or light which are just the same to atheists, Muslims, Hindus, agnostics etc. And to be honest Newton popping to church on Sundays isn't really proof that the Earth is 6000 years old and everything appeared in a week either! And it doesn't really explain the fossil record or whatever other question you've asked, as in:
Q "explain why dating methods don't give ages anywhere near 6000 years?"
A "You seem to be ignoring the fact that Newton was a Christian, and therefore by definition a creationist!"
Aaaaarrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In terms of logic, it is easier to converse with 120 two year olds who've been fed blue smarties with added e number dips than to try to deal with one creationist.
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Re: Junk e-mail a result of the fall

Postby Moon Fire » Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:13 pm

Dr_GS_Hurd wrote:
Brian Jordan wrote:I was sorely tempted to send it to Paul Garner. :twisted:


Mr. Garner turned out to be a major disappointment, poorly prepared, and quick to tuck his tail and run. I did get to expand my reading of creationist crap about geology, so he was at least a motivation to distract me from my current book project.


Its on the back burner whilst i focus my time on some real science but i have a copy of garners book, i've got through most of it at the moment and there are more than a few expletives written in it (note: i NEVER write in books) and at some point i will be debunking it. No idea what will happen once the debunk is complete, but debunk it i will.
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