The utter garbage of Brian Thomas, Vol. 2

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The utter garbage of Brian Thomas, Vol. 2

Postby ProfessorTertius » Wed May 17, 2017 3:11 am

I noticed Ashley's tribute to Brian Thomas of two years ago but decided that this deserves its own new topic. The nonsense from ICR just never ends. I saw this in one of his footnotes at http://www.icr.org/article/9518/

"For example, geologist John Reed listed these seven revealing problems with biostratigraphy in his 2013 book Rocks Aren't Clocks. Powder Springs, GA: Creation Book Publishers, 127:
1) This method depends on evolution. Any uncertainty about evolution translates into uncertainty about biostratigraphy.
2) Even if evolution is true, biostratigraphy depends on the rocks showing a representative record of evolutionary progress.
3) The fossil record as we know it does not show intermediate or transitional forms that show the evolutionary steps.
4) Using evolution to arrange the fossils and then claiming that the order of the fossils proves evolution is circular reasoning.
5) Evidence of catastrophic deposition implies the absence of 'paleoenvironments' which are the basis of the calim that the rocks show historically-reliable snapshots of the past.
6) Living fossils, such as the coelacanth, contradict evolutionary biostratigraphy.
7) The new practice of setting age boundaries by Global Stratotype Section and Points, or 'GSSPs' shows a lack of faith in conventional biostratigraphy."

Face-palm.

One doesn't have to be a geologist or paleontologist to see through these inane and illogical blubberings. My personal favorite is Number 4 is a reminder that someone needs to sit down with these Young Earth Creationists and explain to them the meaning of "circular reasoning" (and what isn't circular reasoning.) (Obviously, the "arrangement" of the fossils is determined within which strata we find them! John Reed makes it sounds like some "evolutionist" arbitrarily assigned them. Sheesh.)
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Postby a_haworthroberts » Wed May 17, 2017 3:42 pm

Don't you know John Reed is an expert?
http://americanloons.blogspot.co.uk/201 ... -reed.html

Whose writings I have occasionally come across previously. He appears to have a talent for turning meaningful patterns of evidence into meaninglessness (as well as sounding pompous and bigoted in the process):
search.php?keywords=reed&fid%5B0%5D=18

For instance:
http://creation.com/refuting-campbell-y ... eformation
A taster:
"Sorting through the article, one finds a variety of arguments, but the bottom line is that biblical understanding must rely on secular natural history as delivered from on high by the high priests of geology. It’s OK if you don’t have a doctorate in geology; the authors know that it’s a hard subject and they provide an easy shortcut … just take their word for it. After all, the experts all know they are right and history has proven them infallible … except for, well, all that squabbling among them and the constant “evolution” of their theories and presuppositions over time."

'Don't listen to those self-satisfied experts. Listen to ME instead.'
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Re: The utter garbage of Brian Thomas, Vol. 2

Postby a_haworthroberts » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:06 pm

http://www.icr.org/article/10129 'Newly Discovered Sixth Extinction Rewrites Geology'.
"Geology students memorize the rock system names found on geologic column diagrams, learn age assignments, typical fossils, and the five worldwide animal extinction events. Now, secular researchers reveal a sixth extinction near the top of Earth’s rock layers ...".

The scientists are NOT saying they have discovered a Sixth (Mass) Extinction, during the late Pliocene. But rather a lesser extinction event. Why is Brian Thomas LYING?
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-017-0223-6
http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/dinosau ... xtinction/
There is also a lot of pseudo-scientific garbage in the Thomas article that is NOT in the Bible.

It ends with:
"With new ocean basins forming, changing sea levels, rising mountains, huge offshore sedimentation from widespread watery surges flowing off continents, no wonder a mass extinction happened at the close of the Pliocene. Noah’s Flood accounts for all these mega-calamities, including a sixth extinction."
THAT IS WHY THOMAS IS LYING. The actual Pliocene (marine megafaunal) extinction that has been discovered to have occurred around 2-3 million years ago (Thomas does NOT want his readers to look at that Nature Ecology and Evolution paper and he only quotes from it selectively and nor does he provide a direct link to it) provides NO support WHATSOEVER for a worldwide flood (and other made-up nonsense from the ICR and co) within just the last 4,500 years. He also does not tell his readers what precisely is meant by the scientific term 'Pliocene'. His articles are an exercise in DELIBERATE DECEPTION.

Exaggerate a real event in order to try and prove completely fictional ones (that would have happened about 2 million years LATER). Totally pathetic. And creationist.

Geology has NOT been rewritten. Young Earth creationists have carried on LYING though.
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