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'YEC is not absurd.'
'David Tee' then goes on to make various absurd statements (which I am flagging at the McGrath blog in question).
"We have the physical evidence to show that the post-flood world is different from the pre-flood one". So 'Tee' has physical evidence from a different 'pre-flood' world does he (other than, if you accept that as 'physical evidence', Genesis 1:9 which MIGHT imply that at creation there was just one 'super' continent because God said “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear”)? What evidence pre-flood physical evidence does Tee - or anybody else - have?
"Third, the geological record bears no witness to anything other than what genesis says." Such as meteorite craters, extinct and dormant supervolcano calderas, features carved out by once larger (ice age) glaciers, distinct patterns within the embedded fossil record such as no rabbits ever being in pre-cambrian layers, undersea caves formed when sea levels were much lower than now, and the extreme age of many igneous rocks as revealed by various radiometric dating methods falsifying a literal reading of the Bible's genealogies eh 'David'? Where does Genesis describe the many and varied events and - often 'uniformitarian' - processes that all of these bear consistent witness to?
"Any alternative is read into the record by those who have rejected the truth and are looking at geology with deceived eyes". That bigoted statement is refusing to accept any explanations of the geological record that are not 'biblical' (after saying the record only bears witness to 'biblical' things he then implies - without any evidence whatsoever - that 'other' non-biblical things eg meteorite impacts or past ice ages were not real but have been 'read into' the geological record by scientists with 'deceived eyes' (it's funny how OTHER YECs accept that the events DID happen - but then try to make them part of 'biblical history').
"When one rejects part of the historical data in their analysis then it is impossible for them to come to the true answer of what the geological evidence is saying." I presume he means the apparently worldwide flood recorded in Genesis. Since when was that story 'data'?
"Why would other people in the world send messages to Noah to save their animals when they did not have the decency to implore him to save their children?" Perhaps Tee should ask McGrath instead of badmouthing him behind his back. But MAYBE it's because Genesis 6:17-20 records God as saying: "I am going to bring floodwaters on the earth to destroy all life under the heavens, every creature that has the breath of life in it. Everything on earth will perish. But I will establish my covenant with you, and you will enter the ark—you and your sons and your wife and your sons’ wives with you. You are to bring into the ark two of all living creatures, male and female, to keep them alive with you. Two of every kind of bird, of every kind of animal and of every kind of creature that moves along the ground will come to you to be kept alive".
"No YEC is ignoring what Genesis says that we know of." Apart from TEE HIMSELF of course. Who has falsely and heretically claimed recently that Noah's flood was a 'mass extinction' event (contradicting those words from Genesis 6). And refused to repent of his falsehood when it was exposed as such here.
But it's not only Tee. I have documented at this forum that Ken Ham blatantly ignores Genesis 8:17 and claims that the Bible is 'silent' on matters that it is NOT silent on (since Ham wants and indeed NEEDS to pretend that claimed 'recent' ie 'post-flood' mass extinctions are 'not' totally unbiblical).https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken- ... eationist/
"The Bible tells us that God commanded Noah to take animals aboard the Ark “to keep them alive with [Noah]” (Genesis 6:19). There is nothing about God promising to preserve them after the Flood, and since Scripture is silent on the issue we must make speculations based on what we know of His character." Ham preferring misleading and unnecessary 'speculations' to inconvenient Genesis verses! Such as those words of Genesis 8:17 which say NOTHING about imminent extinction: "Bring out every kind of living creature that is with you—the birds, the animals, and all the creatures that move along the ground—so they can multiply on the earth and be fruitful and increase in number on it."
Which is all rather curious since I have seen Tee - a maverick YEC - have a go at Ken Ham in some of his past blogs.
"There is not one biblical command or instruction that tells a believer to use the geological record as proof for or against the flood. So where is he getting this instruction to use the geological record?" Again Tee (unlike McGrath I suspect) seems to have forgotten the dishonest activities of Ken Ham. Who goes around indoctrinating audiences with the soundbite "If there really was a global flood, we would find billions of dead things buried in rock layers laid down by water all over the Earth - and we do!"
"We are saying that scientists are not reading the rocks and fossils correctly". You are not speaking truth then, 'Tee'. Scientists do generally read rocks and fossils correctly. Yoyu have failed to show otherwise. The rocks and the (non-chaotic) fossil record do NOT testify to any recent global flood inundation. Neither does history. Yet you still insist this 'worldwide' catastrophe happened. Because of the Bible ONLY.
"Then the supposed evidence from outside of the Bible is generally not evidence but the weird theories of those who cannot verify their ideas nor present any real physical evidence to back up their claims." What insanity. The geological record is not evidence it is just 'weird theories'!
I have not tried to engage Tee himself this time. He may - or may not - see this post (I hope he does). It is clear that he cannot be reasoned with. (I don't necessarily agree with everything written by James McGrath in case Tee might assume otherwise.)
Critiquing the sciencey online claims of YECs is a way of keeping myself occupied during dark winter evenings.