Roger Stanyard wrote:
Observable facts are what proves a theory, not guesses, conjecture, and assumptions.
No theory in science can ever be proven, You don;t seem to understand even basic science. In science a theory is an explanation that has been rigourously tested by the scientific method.
Question for Ashley- Who is Isaac Bourne? He hasn't introduced humself. Is he a practising, qualified scientist?
There's an article at RationalWiki which I posted here the other day (I cannot cut and paste right now so will log off and try again - in order to complete this post). (I would sooner trust the scientific knowledge of the Christian and scientist Ken Miller who Bourne is attacking on his facebook page today.) EDIT: Brian has re-posted that link.
I flagged that chromosome-2 creationist argument some months ago either here or on a YEC page*. They appeared to be saying that a fusion could not have happened or that we should not assume that one did.http://www.yecheadquarters.org/?p=1754
"The debate was basically over before it even started. According to one of the admins there I did not have permission to debate there or start a debate there. And the section that I had posted in they said was the wrong section. Well Ashley invited me so what was one to think? It’s not like he was new there so if he needed to ask he should have. And then the administrator says: On that lengthy post you made, I accidentally deleted it while trying to move it. One that I did not have a copy of. I was not about to retype it so I told him forget it.
I was warned about debating there by more than one person I should have listened. But here the admins post.
These pics below are of where Me and others already had our names banned before we got there. Which they claimed they had no knowledge of. When it says I use forbidden characters, it means the name was manually blocked on purpose. I used to run forums, design them, and even wrote some code. So I know how they work. Now if Ashley does his usual thing he will call me a liar in all this because it’s his favorite word to use. No problem. This will be the last time I have any dealings with him or that forum."
"Completion of the debate between Ashley and me ended with one of the admins first telling I had to have permission to start a debate. Ashley invited me there one would think he already told them. And when the section I posted in said debate free for all. Go figure. Then he deletes a post I spent a lot of time preparing while on the forum. I did not expect anyone to delete it so I have no copy.
So I have ended the debate. I'm not putting up with being treated that way. Ashley had quit responding anyhow to my last post in another thread. Here is the screen shot of what the admin said. So the 10 atheists to 1 creationist debate is over because my starting debate question was more than they could handle. They did not even try. ~ Issac
IF THE DEBATE IS 'OVER' IT IS BECAUSE BOURNE HAS RUN AWAY. IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT (see my partly capitalised concluding comment at 23.37 GMT on 2.1.15 at the main 'Conversations' thread).
He COULD return and CONTINUE. But he probably will NOT. Sound familiar for past visits here from some other YECs?
I have not called you a 'liar' in 2015 Bourne.
But I predict, from your blog comments of 2.1.15 above (in a blog post that is still dated 30.12.14), that you will NOT return and that you will continue claim that the debate is now 'over'. Despite the fact that TWO threads at 'Conversations' started by YOU remain OPEN and you have NOT been banned from the forum either.
* I raised that chromosome claim within the comments under this on 8.7.14 after YEC Wolcott said something rather silly on Bourne's facebook page at the time.http://worldviewwarriors.blogspot.co.uk ... ation.htmlhttps://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogI ... 8703914215
My detailed comment quoted some salient text from a Wikipedia page that provided references and I then added "If the fusion had occurred before species of human diverged from chimps, we would expect to see the same fused chromosome in chimps too." (Wolcott was trying to argue that humans and chimps were separately created so even if there WAS a chromosome fusion within early humanity it mean NUFFINK.)