YEC Bob Sorensen - compulsive liar exposed

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To CHartsil

He censors believers in evolution so it can't be your left button. (PS Apparently the Facebook liars will stop censoring me in 19 hours. If they can be believed.)

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http://www.biblecreation.com/2017/08/th ... m=facebook
Claims that the people who he disagrees with (that's a lot of people) all lack 'logical' and 'critical' thinking - yet he runs a mile when challenged to open debate about his accusations and his controversial claims.
https://www.facebook.com/cowboybobsorensen
"New Post: "The Most Self-Absorbed Generation?"
It appears that we are dominated by the most selfish generation. They rebel against God's Word, deny science, and celebrate sin."

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With reference to my posts dated 8 August, some alternative fact-based comments concerning Homo naledi and its relatively recent time on Earth:
http://www.evoanth.net/2017/08/22/homo- ... -expected/

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http://www.piltdownsuperman.com/2017/08 ... -time.html
We have measured how old Earth must be based on meteoritic rocks which were around when the solar system first formed. So this fundamentalist religious reasoning is in profound ERROR:
"We have billions of fossils all over the world. Secularists have implausible stories, but the logical explanation of such fossilization is the global Genesis Flood — which means fossils did not take millions or billions of years to form, so the earth is not billions of years old."
Flagging this (much room geddit for error there):
https://crev.info/2017/06/amber-exceptional-fossils/
Earth is 4.5 bn years old give or take. And there was NO global Flood within the last 5,000 years. None.

https://www.facebook.com/TQEPDebunked/?hc_location=ufi
This is a completely different process than fossilization. Fossilization requires organic material to be replaced by sediment. Flagging this:
"Featured Post: "Fast Fossilization Defies Deep Time."
Well-preserved fossils of organisms showing even delicate parts show that the standard secularists' long age view is fundamentally flawed."
(Technically amber is fossilised tree resin but this is not what is normally meant by fossilisation.)

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http://www.biblecreation.com/2017/08/di ... anity.html
No dinosaur fossils found at the Grand Canyon, Bob. Supposedly catastrophically formed during Noah's Flood just 4,500 years ago - according to young earth creationist zealots who insist there were a pair of dinosaurs on the Genesis ark (but this is not found in the Bible itself).

And you have stolen the word 'science' and applied it to your fundamentalist beliefs about the Bible.

You reference this:
http://creation.com/shadow-of-disbelief
Which in turn references this:
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/re ... ristianity

Even if he is some sort of Christian, I also very much doubt Tom Holland is an anti-science zealot - like you and many other online young earth creationists. Young earth creationist false teaching about Adam and Eve with dinosaurs caused him to DOUBT Christianity. "I was rock-solid certain: no human being had ever seen a sauropod".

CMI are scraping the barrel here. (As of course is Bob.) But we already know that Phil Robinson is a liar. Some time after it was transmitted in the UK, Robinson lied on the CMI website about that creationism roadtrip BBC programme that he appeared in - as I reported here at the time. And despite Robinson's article of 27 July, there is NO indication whatsoever that Tom Holland has changed his mind since his childhood that no human has ever seen a living sauropod. None. (I recall this TV documentary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaurs ... d_Monsters)

Robinson asks "What can be done to teach young people the true history of dinosaurs?" His answer, of course, is 'apologetics' - by which he means blatant INDOCTRINATION of children and students with highly biased and questionable CMI resources discussing dinosaurs. CMI, like other young earth creationists, CANNOT account for why, how and when every species of non-avian dinosaur went 'recently' extinct (that's because they did NOT go 'recently' extinct, and no human being ever saw a living dinosaur not even the writer of Job; note how someone in the Netherlands, commenting on the Robinson piece, MISQUOTES Job 40: 17).

Sorry Bob - I just did some critical thinking. But it's probably not to your liking. Since you are clearly terrified of debating anyone other than fellow YECs who follow your blogs.

Have another go.

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"Yes, dinosaurs and humans did live at the same time because they were created together." Er, no. Not really. Have another read of Genesis 1: 24-27 Bob.
"And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them".

Oh and the most enormous dinosaurs must all be either livestock, creatures that move along the ground (like beetles do), or 'wild animals' (like wolves or lions maybe)?

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Yes, same old.

https://www.facebook.com/Piltdown.Superman/
The cult-leader with fascist tendencies is attacking my words here again (from the relative safety of his own main Facebook page you understand). Under a post about Chicxulub that I haven't even read let alone commented on:
"Here is why atheo-fascists should not try to quote the Bible, because they deliberately disunderstand it (along with twisting my words as well):
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=3153&start=900#p51627"

No. That person on the CMI website MISQUOTED Job 40: 17a - and BOB IS LYING ONCE AGAIN.
Job 40:17 (NIV): "Its tail sways like a cedar".
Or the version used by Mr Piet: "He makes his tail stiff like a cedar".
Yet the Dutchman falsely wrote: "his animal had a tail like a cedar" and "tails as long as a cedar".

In its English translations the cedar reference in this verse from Job relates to MOVEMENT and not SIZE, liar Sorensen.

SO SHOVE OFF LIAR BOB. I understand the Bible. Unlike young earth creationists, I try to avoid TWISTING its meaning.

Sorensen has not shifted his position in six years of being shown as a liar and factually incorrect on this page. He is egotistical and evil.

I will grant that I was being slightly pedantic in criticising the Sorensen phrase "dinosaurs and humans did live at the same time because they were created together". They are were created in separate acts of 'creation' on 'day six'. Sorensen should express himself more precisely.

Oh and the most enormous dinosaurs must all be either livestock, creatures that move along the ground (like beetles do), or 'wild animals' (like wolves or lions maybe)? According to young earth creationist Bible 'scholars'.

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The fascists Sorensen and Long are lashing out again. I guess they lost another argument. They also are a victim of their own delusional beliefs and self-indoctrination. And not Christians just Bible bashers.

https://www.facebook.com/Piltdown.Superman/
"Hitler-Robbers is always right about everything. He's an expert in all science and theology, so YOU must be a liar because you dare to disagree with his wisdom. He doesn't deny hanging around with and approving the actions of that atheo terrorist".
"This is how atheism and blind hate affect the mind."
Who is that atheo terrorist Mein Herr Long? Is it The Question Evolution Project Debunked who has challenged your page's falsehoods with facts - and caused you and Bob to lash out instead of behaving like adults capable of 'critical thinking'?

The fascist Long has also been trying to provoke me here again. Not biting:
https://www.facebook.com/TQEPDebunked/?hc_location=ufi

The hate is theirs. They feel they need to broadcast their hate on the internet EVERY DAY.

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http://radaractive.blogspot.co.uk/2017/ ... ading.html
Creationism (and creationists) are becoming unpopular even in America. Wonder why? Could it be the sheer bigotry involved maybe? Or the untruthfulness over science matters?

PS I see the coward Sorensen is attacking me on one of his other blogs because I pointed out the latest bad behaviour of Creation Ministries International concerning entropy and evolution. I suspect I will be replying to that shortly at the other thread ...

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Indoctrination and self-indoctrination with CMI apologetics materials required to ensure the survival of some Christians' faith:
http://www.biblecreation.com/2017/09/ha ... m=facebook
https://creation.com/breaking-the-shackles

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http://www.piltdownsuperman.com/2017/09 ... volve.html
"Darwin's drones are seeing what is not there... declare evolution without models or evidence...". Liar.
"... The real evidence supports recent creation." Liar.

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https://www.facebook.com/Piltdown.Superman/ (under a post about Ken Ham not being a 'messiah')
"In searching for the 2016 show that Ham referenced, I came across the (un)Friendly Atheist blog, whining about Ham's blog. What apparently happened is that the interviewer said that Ken's followers consider him a messiah, and Nye was echoing back the interviewer's words in an incredulous manner. Then the (un)Friendly Atheist added, "Camera rolling, cut, paste. Journalistic integrity? Sorry, I couldn’t hear you over the sound of click$." Then he added additional libelous remarks that have been refuted before and after this thing was written. If Poindexter was concerned about journalistic integrity, he would have included some significant portions of the Ken Ham blog where he admitted that he had not seen the show yet, and was anticipating it. Leaving out pertinent information? Yeah, atheists do that. Just ask Haywire the Stalker and his online support group members."

LIAR. The last sentence is TOTAL LIES. Give me just ONE example of me intentionally leaving out 'pertinent' information.

Which is what this creationist liar does ROUTINELY. He makes claims - and fails to BACK THEM UP (because he can't).

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http://donboys.cstnews.com/dawkins-the- ... self-again
"Dawkins took to Twitter last week to declare that, though he makes it a habit not to hate ideological opponents, there’s an exception when it comes to young earth creationists. He opined, “I said I’d never despise individuals, just their views,” Dawkins added, “But there are limits, and YE Creationists who refuse to look at evidence pass mine.” Richard, while professing to be a scientist willing to look at every side of an issue, refuses to look at the case for a young earth!" He already did, dumbo. (And the fool Boys also claims that the sun is 'shrinking'.)

But this silliness is being flagged here:
https://www.facebook.com/Piltdown.Superman/
The liar Sorensen actually refers to "examples of scientific truths inconvenient to notions of an old earth/darwinism" in the Boys piece (which is full of claims that have been debunked). Well er no, Bob, the sun is NOT shrinking: https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/ ... shrinking/
" ... it is clear that the sun derives its energy from fusion of hydrogen into helium and not from gravitational contraction. Therefore, we urge creationists not to use the shrinking sun as evidence that the sun is young." Any shrinkage is imperceptible: https://creation.com/is-the-sun-shrinking

Do try to keep up!

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http://donboys.cstnews.com/dawkins-the- ... self-again

Like this:
"the shrinking of the Sun indicates that if the Earth were ancient, it would have touched the Earth in only twenty million years ...".

Or indeed this back in 2014:
http://donboys.cstnews.com/creation-mod ... -evolution
"There are changes but never from one species to another." Total ignorance - or total lies.

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http://donboys.cstnews.com/dawkins-the-atheist-made-a-monkey-of-himself-again
"Dawkins took to Twitter last week to declare that, though he makes it a habit not to hate ideological opponents, there’s an exception when it comes to young earth creationists. He opined, “I said I’d never despise individuals, just their views,” Dawkins added, “But there are limits, and YE Creationists who refuse to look at evidence pass mine.” Richard, while professing to be a scientist willing to look at every side of an issue, refuses to look at the case for a young earth!" He already did, dumbo. (And the fool Boys also claims that the sun is 'shrinking'.)

But this silliness is being flagged here:
https://www.facebook.com/Piltdown.Superman/
The liar Sorensen actually refers to "examples of scientific truths inconvenient to notions of an old earth/darwinism" in the Boys piece (which is full of claims that have been debunked). Well er no, Bob, the sun is NOT shrinking: https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/ ... shrinking/
" ... it is clear that the sun derives its energy from fusion of hydrogen into helium and not from gravitational contraction. Therefore, we urge creationists not to use the shrinking sun as evidence that the sun is young." Any shrinkage is imperceptible: https://creation.com/is-the-sun-shrinking

Do try to keep up!

Thank you for publicising my post on your hate page, Bob and Curtis:
https://www.facebook.com/Piltdown.Superman/
And proving yourselves LIARS and not Christian once again:
"From the "Stupid Atheist Tricks" Department: I keep getting "credit" (and blame) for things I did not write because they are posted here. (In fact, I disremember having ever heard of Don Boys before an Admin posted this.) In this case, an atheopath was angry about an incidental part of the Boys article, and uses it to demonize "the dishonest YEC mindset". Desperate to hate! [Edit: Forgot to add that not all creationists are in lockstep; we believe the Bible, but science models and such come and go.]-CBB [Link to this thread.]"
"Hitler-Robbers and those other caged monkeys are furious that creationists are their intellectual superiors, so the throw diaper fillings at thinking people."
"What happened? Were you online when it was tapioca pudding day and internet access day at the Bedlam asylum? They hate tapioca pudding, and take to the internet to lash out at people. Really, dealing with angry atheists is like a food fight. Not productive."