YEC Bob Sorensen - compulsive liar exposed

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Re: YEC Bob Sorensen - timeline

Postby mathunt » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:08 pm

The link that I am being stalked by bob was a previous one, did you want the debate I was having with Petersen or his website (www.answersforhope.com)
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YEC Bob Sorensen - more false accusations

Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:18 pm

Wide circulation email as just sent:


YEC propagandist Cowboy Bob Sorensen adds to scripture

https://www.facebook.com/Piltdown.Superman
"A recent comment got me searching (I was between articles). This
comment was on an anti-Christian, anti-creationist site. Creationists
have to deal with stalkers. They like to misrepresent us. Here is a
case where someone was misrepresenting me, AND creation science:
Re: YEC Bob Sorensen - timeline
Postby a_haworthroberts ? Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:20 am
http://www.101arguments.com/2013/08/the ... ction.html
"Rapid speciation has been observed, and fits creationist models of
repopulation after the Flood."
Trouble is, 'rapid speciation' does not fit the BIBLE, Cowboy Bob.
Shall I call you a compromiser - or a liberal?
Actually, this stalker is showing his ignorance. Rapid speciation DOES
fit the Bible, Poindexter.
http://creation.com/refuting-evolution- ... speciation
http://creation.com/darwins-finches"

(This is the comment Mr Sorensen is referring to, posted at 2.20 am UK
time: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=3153&start=420)

PLEASE TELL US WHERE THE BIBLE SPEAKS OF RAPID SPECIATION BOB.
OTHERWISE I SHALL CONCLUDE THAT YOU ARE MISREPRESENTING THE BIBLE. AND
THAT I WAS NOT MISREPRESENTING YOU AND OTHER YECS IN THE SLIGHTEST.

I AM NOT ASKING FOR SOME OLD ARTICLES BY JONATHAN SARFATI ABOUT
CREATIONISTS AND THEIR MODELS.

I AM ASKING FOR ONE FOR MORE BIBLE VERSES THAT SPEAK OF 'RAPID
SPECIATION'.

I am apparently forbidden from posting at 'The Question Evolution
Project' - even though Mr Bob is NOT banned from commenting at the BCSE
community forum. Thus an emailed challenge to Sorensen over his online
accusation is needed.

(And I feel ashamed of sharing a forename with the delightful Ashley
Brewer.)

Once again Bob, I put it to you that what YECs believe about 'rapid
speciation' after the Flood is NOT found in the Bible.

A H-R
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Re: YEC Bob Sorensen - timeline

Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:22 pm

Peter Henderson wrote:You've pissed him off again Ashley:

A recent comment got me searching (I was between articles). This comment was on an anti-Christian, anti-creationist site. Creationists have to deal with stalkers. They like to misrepresent us. Here is a case where someone was misrepresenting me, AND creation science:

Re: YEC Bob Sorensen - timeline

Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:20 am
http://www.101arguments.com/2013/08/the ... ction.html
"Rapid speciation has been observed, and fits creationist models of repopulation after the Flood."
Trouble is, 'rapid speciation' does not fit the BIBLE, Cowboy Bob.
Shall I call you a compromiser - or a liberal?

Actually, this stalker is showing his ignorance. Rapid speciation DOES fit the Bible, Poindexter.
http://creation.com/refuting-evolution- ... speciation
http://creation.com/darwins-finches


https://www.facebook.com/Piltdown.Superman?fref=ts



Peter - thanks just dealt with. Bob doesn't know the difference between YEC models and what the Bible actually SAYS.
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Re: YEC Bob Sorensen - timeline

Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:24 pm

http://stormbringer005.blogspot.co.uk/2 ... osers.html
Ranting seems to be the only thing Sorensen can do. How good at it he is I will leave to others to judge.
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Message to Bob Sorensen

Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:27 pm

YOU BANNED ME FROM YOUR FACEBOOK PAGE.

NOBODY HAS BANNED YOU FROM THE BCSE COMMUNITY FORUM.

WHY NOT COME HERE AND DEFEND YOURSELF?

IF YOU HAVE THE COURAGE OF YOUR CONVICTIONS AND TRULY BELIEVE WHAT YOU WRITE ON FACEBOOK AND IN YOUR BLOGS ABOUT MYSELF.
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Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:36 pm

This 'atheist' thinks the behaviour of the apparent atheist Putin absolutely stinks, btw. The Christians Obama and Cameron speak more sense about Syria imho.

Oh, but of course they are compromiser Christians - not YEC fundamentalists.
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Re:

Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:42 pm

I see that Truth in Science appear to be blocking my emails.

Ostriches.

Sorry, that's an insult to birds.
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Re: YEC Bob Sorensen - timeline

Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:45 pm

Exchange with YEC blogger Tim Gilleand:

"Ashley, you are making this more complex than this is. The Bible lays
out a strict 6000-year timeline for the history of the earth. Thus if
we obtained all the animals we have today from a relatively low
population on the ark, rapid speciation is what we would expect to find
in the evidence. Thus rapid speciation is a Biblical prediction. I
think you are smart enough to understand this, but are nitpicking over
semantics.
~Tim"

"The Bible says nothing about a 'relatively low population on the Ark'
(of land-based animals) either. Nor does the Bible define 'kind'
assuming the term has some specific meaning (I'm not even sure it
does).
All this is YEC teaching, not Bible teaching.
Your predictions ADD to what the Bible actually says. Suggesting the
writer(s) had no 'extra' knowledge that we possess today.
Seems pretty simple to me."
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Re: YEC Bob Sorensen - timeline

Postby InfernalTank » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:55 pm

One of his fans said this:

http://puu.sh/4kE2Y
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Re: YEC Bob Sorensen - timeline

Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:57 pm

That's the delightful Ashley I was referring to.
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Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:54 pm

""The Bible says nothing about a 'relatively low population on the
Ark' (of land-based animals) either".
We know exactly how large the Ark was, and it could not hold anywhere
near the amount of species we know about today, thus in the last 4000
years we must have had rapid speciation. Seems pretty simple to me.
~Tim Gilleand"

"So WHY does the Bible suggest that representative couples of all and
every type of land-based creature was on the Ark (did the writer
understand what he was saying)? Not representative couples of
representative kinds of all and every creature.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=NIV
"I am going to bring floodwaters on the earth to destroy all life
under the heavens, every creature that has the breath of life in it.
Everything on earth will perish. But I will establish my covenant with
you, and you will enter the ark - you and your sons and your wife and
your sons - wives with you. You are to bring into the ark two of all
living creatures, male and female, to keep them alive with you. Two of
every kind of bird, of every kind of animal and of every kind of
creature that moves along the ground will come to you to be kept
alive." (verses 17-20)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=NIV
Note the words 'every' and 'all'.
In this English translation the word 'all' also appears in chapter 1,
verses 25-26:
"God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock
according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the
ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. Then God
said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they
may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the
livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that
move along the ground.""

This could run and run as YECs seem to enjoy being wrong and accusing
their critics of being wrong or misrepresenting them."


(Gilleand seems to assume rapid speciation during the rapid creationist - and unbiblical - 'ice age' too. Oh, and I do think YECs are more 'biblical' than OECs and TEs - but they STILL have to make stuff up in order to make the Bible 'account for' those scientific and historical realities that they absolutely have to accept. Accept because they are visible in the here and now, visible today.)
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Postby a_haworthroberts » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:29 am

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Re: YEC Bob Sorensen - timeline

Postby a_haworthroberts » Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:00 am

Please don't lose sight of the real issue here. Not only is Sorensen both shooting from the sidelines and insisting the Bible supports his fantasies about rapid speciation during the last 4,300 years, whilst trying to avoid any critical scrutiny whatsoever, but he and Sarfati etc are spreading anti-scientific falsehoods.
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Re: YEC Bob Sorensen - timeline

Postby InfernalTank » Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:27 am

The hypocrisy is strong with this one.

"Atheists are so mean! What can I do? I know, I'll do the exact same thing that I hate them for!"
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Re: YEC Bob Sorensen - timeline

Postby a_haworthroberts » Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:49 am

And both Steve Lloyd and Paul Garner at Biblical Creation Ministries appear to be blocking my emails too.

If you are a YEC, unwanted facts are 'spam'.
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