YEC Bob Sorensen - compulsive liar exposed

[a_haworthroberts]

The Christian fascist is at it again.

https://www.facebook.com/cowboybobsorensen
"I shouldn't coddle the attention whore, but this is an example of intellectual honesty and moral integrity for a mentally ill demoniac atheist. He simply cherry-picked statements he disliked, ignoring seven supporting links and the link to the really important material linked at the end. -CBB
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=3153&start=810#p51478"

Picking out lies and highlighting them is not 'cherry picking', moron.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking

Only fascists, especially ones living in America, use the phrase "leftist fake news media". What they really mean is the free and fair mainstream news media. The fake news almost always comes from the EXTREME right. And Sorensen's links - where they even exist in 'support' of the lies I documented - are all biased denialist tosh (as well as not being very recent in some cases). The 'skewed data' claim is another Sorensen lie even if he claims it is revealed in the link. And his statement "there is no evidence for anthropogenic global warming" is 100% FALSE (try those IPCC reports cretin) and is WILFUL LIE that is unsupported by ANY link despite Sorensen scraping the barrel for links. It is classic right wing hatred of science.

And Bill Nye (I don't always agree with his suggestions) has not been put 'in his place' - by the highly biased climate change sceptic John Coleman - on the relevant science (nor by that aggressive Fox News interviewer recently). All we have seen from Coleman is a personal attack. And the claim of 'spurious' arguments is 'supported' by a link that FALSELY claims that the world mean temperature in 2016 (the hottest year on record) was the same as 1996 (and many Daily Telegraph journalists such as Booker and Delingpole are notorious AGW denialists). These climate denialists are even worse than creationists as their beliefs are DANGEROUS for the future of humanity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumen ... ure_record
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -heatwaves

And I do not accept as significant links that may be posted to past propaganda by Sorensen, or to propaganda from the CREV YEC Coppedge. There is a general consensus among scientists (there was also a March for Science partly because of Trump's threat to withdraw from the Paris accord and side with the butcher Assad instead).

The rest of Sorensen's lies (I hope I highlighted all of them) were unsupported by ANY links. (And Al Mohler is NOT a climatologist so why should anyone trust his opinions on climate change?)

Sorensen is a total disgrace, and always has been. A fantasist about climatology (so why should anyone believe his creationist claims).

Of course he will REFUSE to address these details. Much easier to sulk and call me a 'demoniac' or whatever, like the coward that he is.

It looks like my original post here may have caused this hate preacher to write a stupid lying article in the first place. He hates me so much. It seems he can't resist.



Now then, now then - about those election results ... Thanks to Sorensen for keeping me gainfully occupied whilst waiting for the first UK seat to declare (there appears to have been a backlash against the Tories - moderately right wing not like the rabid Republicans - perhaps Trump has caused the UK to reject the right or at least to a degree as the Tories will still be the biggest party, and France to reject the far right).

[a_haworthroberts]

"Oops, looks like the genius who holds court at the Forum of Futility is pontificating again! He is justifying his genetic fallacy (among numerous others) by saying that he does not have to read the supporting links because they're all wrong. Why are they all wrong? Because they do not fit with his own hypocritical fascistic bigotry. Take a look-see:"

Lying s**t - I did read all or part of all the links that Sorensen posted to try and justify his egregious lies. He of course refuses either to read my factual links or to comment upon their contents.

Hateful FASCIST liar.

Any more lying bile will be read but probably ignored since the man is just a cowardly 'troll from afar'.

Don't listen to the creep. Listen to scientists.


EDIT: hello guest Bob you lying creep. And now logging out for the night and going back to that election (please God, NOT that ridiculous liar Boris Johnson - please God).

[a_haworthroberts]

Has posted yet another hate video - this time against 'The Question Evolution Project Debunked'. Will he flag either on his facebook pages or within the hate video itself THIS page where his bigoted followers can actually read his posts where he allegedly debunks TQEPD and is proven 'right'? Will pigs ever evolve wings?
https://www.facebook.com/TQEPDebunked/?hc_location=ufi

I am about to watch this offering. I suspect it will be a cack-handed attempt at further brainwashing of the demented fanatical reality-rejecting people who like his pages and think he is a 'good Christian':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z739SPE5l80

If there is ANYTHING of note in the video I will add a PS to this post flagging it. (If not I won't.)

[a_haworthroberts]

Has posted yet another hate video - this time against 'The Question Evolution Project Debunked'. Will he flag either on his facebook pages or within the hate video itself THIS page where his bigoted followers can actually read his posts where he allegedly debunks TQEPD and is proven 'right'? Will pigs ever evolve wings?
https://www.facebook.com/TQEPDebunked/?hc_location=ufi

I am about to watch this offering. I suspect it will be a cack-handed attempt at further brainwashing of the demented fanatical reality-rejecting people who like his pages and think he is a 'good Christian':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z739SPE5l80

If there is ANYTHING of note in the video I will add a PS to this post flagging it. (If not I won't.)

So bigot Bob (and he just loves his bigotry) found evidence that the 'atheopath' in question misleadingly used a number of different facebook identities. And comes out with this piece of bigotry: "When he sees this, he *will* retaliate. He's an atheopath, it's what they do and who they are" (other variants include the stated presumption that 'atheopaths' tell porkies because "that's what they do"). But in my case I don't lie nor do I used multiple or fake identities. So how does bigot Bob get around that? He doesn't engage with my content! Instead he resort to vicious libel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_qUzlKtDpE

(I flagged this thread here, under the video nasty, and made an additional comment. BUT BOTH POSTS HAVE VANISHED INTO THIN AIR.
https://www.facebook.com/TQEPDebunked/?hc_location=ufi)

[a_haworthroberts]

https://www.facebook.com/TQEPDebunked/?hc_location=ufi
Me: "Can Bob defend this drivel by Menton: "In any case, a supposed TL age of 315,000 ± 34,000 years makes these bones those of Homo sapiens (fully human people) who lived during the Ice Age, which biblically occurred after, and as a result of, the global Flood cataclysm. Thus, the real age of these bones is only probably around 4,000 years, and the bones are those of Noah’s descendants." This is utter gutter 'science'. There was NO 'ice age' 4,000 years ago - not even in Europe or the Near East (let alone Morocco). And he is lying by using the word 'biblically'. Otherwise I could make stupid statements such as "Biblically, Ken Ham is fully human person who was born after Noah's Flood". But neither an 'ice age' (real [typo corrected] past events before Christianity ever existed) nor the birth of Ken Ham are mentioned or alluded to in the Bible. Therefore I would NOT make that kind of stupid statement. And I would like to know WHAT evidence Menton or Sorensen have that these skulls belong to people directly descended from the Bible's 'Noah'. Saying they were 'fully human' will not do - since they lived many thousands of years before 'Noah'."
The Question Evolution Project replied as follows:
https://www.facebook.com/Piltdown.Super ... =3&theater

It is more plausible that such people are evil than that they are insane.

[MisterGordons]

Has posted yet another hate video - this time against 'The Question Evolution Project Debunked'. Will he flag either on his facebook pages or within the hate video itself THIS page where his bigoted followers can actually read his posts where he allegedly debunks TQEPD and is proven 'right'? Will pigs ever evolve wings?
https://www.facebook.com/TQEPDebunked/?hc_location=ufi

I am about to watch this offering. I suspect it will be a cack-handed attempt at further brainwashing of the demented fanatical reality-rejecting people who like his pages and think he is a 'good Christian':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z739SPE5l80

If there is ANYTHING of note in the video I will add a PS to this post flagging it. (If not I won't.)

So bigot Bob (and he just loves his bigotry) found evidence that the 'atheopath' in question misleadingly used a number of different facebook identities. And comes out with this piece of bigotry: "When he sees this, he *will* retaliate. He's an atheopath, it's what they do and who they are" (other variants include the stated presumption that 'atheopaths' tell porkies because "that's what they do"). But in my case I don't lie nor do I used multiple or fake identities. So how does bigot Bob get around that? He doesn't engage with my content! Instead he resort to vicious libel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_qUzlKtDpE

(I flagged this thread here, under the video nasty, and made an additional comment. BUT BOTH POSTS HAVE VANISHED INTO THIN AIR.
https://www.facebook.com/TQEPDebunked/?hc_location=ufi)

Ashley Haworth-Roberts continues his quest to build up his ego and importance on the web. He fails. He is does not honestly deal with the subjects. Cowboy Bob Sorensen presented a compelling case that the meat machine known as Joe Gallman among many other names is a liar and cannot demonstrate logic. Coincidentally the meat machine known as Ashley Haworth-Roberts approves of the actions of this Joe Gallman of many names. Ashley Haworth-Roberts has been shown and shown himself that he is incapable of logic. He approves of hatred and misrepresentation.

I have been learning about atheism and the actions of its defenders. I do not foresee that I shall learn anything further from this forum.

[a_haworthroberts]

Has posted yet another hate video - this time against 'The Question Evolution Project Debunked'. Will he flag either on his facebook pages or within the hate video itself THIS page where his bigoted followers can actually read his posts where he allegedly debunks TQEPD and is proven 'right'? Will pigs ever evolve wings?
https://www.facebook.com/TQEPDebunked/?hc_location=ufi

I am about to watch this offering. I suspect it will be a cack-handed attempt at further brainwashing of the demented fanatical reality-rejecting people who like his pages and think he is a 'good Christian':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z739SPE5l80

If there is ANYTHING of note in the video I will add a PS to this post flagging it. (If not I won't.)

So bigot Bob (and he just loves his bigotry) found evidence that the 'atheopath' in question misleadingly used a number of different facebook identities. And comes out with this piece of bigotry: "When he sees this, he *will* retaliate. He's an atheopath, it's what they do and who they are" (other variants include the stated presumption that 'atheopaths' tell porkies because "that's what they do"). But in my case I don't lie nor do I used multiple or fake identities. So how does bigot Bob get around that? He doesn't engage with my content! Instead he resort to vicious libel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_qUzlKtDpE

(I flagged this thread here, under the video nasty, and made an additional comment. BUT BOTH POSTS HAVE VANISHED INTO THIN AIR.
https://www.facebook.com/TQEPDebunked/?hc_location=ufi)

Ashley Haworth-Roberts continues his quest to build up his ego and importance on the web. He fails. He is does not honestly deal with the subjects. Cowboy Bob Sorensen presented a compelling case that the meat machine known as Joe Gallman among many other names is a liar and cannot demonstrate logic. Coincidentally the meat machine known as Ashley Haworth-Roberts approves of the actions of this Joe Gallman of many names. Ashley Haworth-Roberts has been shown and shown himself that he is incapable of logic. He approves of hatred and misrepresentation.

I have been learning about atheism and the actions of its defenders. I do not foresee that I shall learn anything further from this forum.

The fascist lying troll - who is ignored by everyone else on this forum - is back.

I do NOT approve of the use of 'fake' accounts and have NEVER indicated otherwise, as this thread shows. Your claim that I am 'incapable' of logic is pathetic and 100% false. I do NOT, and never have, either 'misrepresented' or approved of misrepresentation.

Come back when you have something worthwhile to say.

[a_haworthroberts]

Post just made at TQEPD facebook page and flagged to the person running the page:
"I GIVE UP. I WROTE THREE LENGTHY POSTS, NOT SAVED, DESTROYING SORENSEN. WHY HAVE THEY VANISHED (I was going to add another that you did in fact quote him in full). WHY IS THIS PAGE UNABLE TO DISPLAY POSTS WITH LINKS TO THE BCSE. VERY ANGRY IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO RETRIEVE THEM. THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED."

[a_haworthroberts]

I'm being told "That is facebook's comment servlet. I have no control over it. It's been an issue for at least a month." Whatever. It's 100 % unacceptable.

I will now have to save all my key posts and reproduce them here - which I was trying to avoid.

Very angry that almost an hour's work has suddenly come to NOUGHT because of this stupid nonsense.


PS at 1.52 am:
I basically showed that Bob does exactly what he complains about here eg act like a child, call people bigots, deliberately divert attention away from actual conversation topics on the other site (where all he now does is post silly memes over and over and then declare his opponents defeated) ...
https://www.facebook.com/Piltdown.Super ... =3&theater

[MisterGordons]

Post just made at TQEPD facebook page and flagged to the person running the page:
"I GIVE UP. I WROTE THREE LENGTHY POSTS, NOT SAVED, DESTROYING SORENSEN. WHY HAVE THEY VANISHED (I was going to add another that you did in fact quote him in full). WHY IS THIS PAGE UNABLE TO DISPLAY POSTS WITH LINKS TO THE BCSE. VERY ANGRY IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO RETRIEVE THEM. THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED."

Ashley Haworth-Roberts has 'destroyed' nothing but his own credibility. Cowboy Bob Sorensen helped point this out. If he took his own advice and waited to come back when he had something worthwhile to say then he would never return.

[a_haworthroberts]

Post just made at TQEPD facebook page and flagged to the person running the page:
"I GIVE UP. I WROTE THREE LENGTHY POSTS, NOT SAVED, DESTROYING SORENSEN. WHY HAVE THEY VANISHED (I was going to add another that you did in fact quote him in full). WHY IS THIS PAGE UNABLE TO DISPLAY POSTS WITH LINKS TO THE BCSE. VERY ANGRY IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO RETRIEVE THEM. THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED."

Ashley Haworth-Roberts has 'destroyed' nothing but his own credibility. Cowboy Bob Sorensen helped point this out. If he took his own advice and waited to come back when he had something worthwhile to say then he would never return.

I'm not going to waste a minute of my life on this troll.

[a_haworthroberts]

Just made these two posts here:
https://www.facebook.com/TQEPDebunked/?hc_location=ufi (see under a post dated 28 March, near the top of the page)

"Some of my posts here keep disappearing despite the efforts of the page owner to prevent this. Of the posts in question, he has just said "All I can figure is they're being reported by Bob I'm really not doing anything to them." Who knows. In future I will save posts I do NOT want to 'lose' here, and reproduce them at the British Centre for Science Education community forum thread devoted to fascist liar Bob and the other fascist liars who mount false character attacks upon me - Long and Gordons. Such as this post and the one that immediately follows. So it might be worth keeping an eye on that page - which Bob reads - as well."

"If people post counter arguments against his claims or claims he is endorsing at this page or even (when they can) at his own facebook pages, Bob accuses them of 'trolling' and immediately bans them. He then comes to this page, basically trolls the page with memes rather than engaging properly with comments, and then declares (often on his own closed page) that the so-called atheopaths 'destroyed themselves' (or some such) or that he exposed their 'bad logic'. This is not credible behaviour. It is fraudulent, hypocritical, narcissistic and juvenile behaviour. Bob deserves this page."

[a_haworthroberts]

I just received a message from Facebook stating that THEY removed my message as below, saying that it did not comply with Facebook Community Standards:
"Sorensen - you are a pathological liar, utter hypocrite and a fascist and fraud. A truly despicable human being. When faced with reality (ie not your own North Korean style pages) you are terrified of genuine debate so resort to NO argument just stupid propaganda images and false claims. Meanwhile on his OWN page he tries to get revenge by posting a seven paragraph 'sermon' followed by an angry comment that FAILS to address or directly relate to ANY of the exchanges here: https://www.facebook.com/Piltdown.Superman/ (around one hour ago) He projects nasty behaviour onto his critics whilst totally ignoring his own hate-mongering and bigotry. See next post [which also vanished and which was a detailed rebuttal of the sheer hypocrisy of that Sorensen seven paragraph 'sermon' posted earlier this week].

[a_haworthroberts]

The facebook fools are at it again. They are curbing my right of free speech, and in particular the right to defend myself against malicious lies, ad hominems and hate speech from Sorensen and his rabble - over at: https://www.facebook.com/TQEPDebunked/?hc_location=ufi

This is what they have now hidden:
"https://www.facebook.com/cowboybobsorensen
Sorensen and his cesspit of fellow fascists are some of the most evil people in Christendom and certainly all impostors - fake 'Christians' who are brimming with lies, self-justification, hatred and bigotry. Remember Long and Sorensen LOST all their recent arguments with me here? These fascist scum are insane with impotent rage. So we get this bile "This is typical of the left. People are bullied for being Christians, Republicans, conservatives. They get their cars keyed and even run off the road, and have to keep their politics a secret because of leftist fascism. People like Hitler-Robbers will call US the fascists, projecting his own fascism on the rest of us. ~CL" I was going to expose the fascist coward via wide circulation email. But then I recalled what the UK is coping with at the moment - and what this weekend is commemorating from a previous act of hatred in 2016: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40307337 I would not be surprised if Long has a lot in common with MP Jo Cox's murderer. I suggest he puts away for good any thoughts of 'I'd love to kill a leftist'. Apparently the deceased MP once stated at the House of Commons "we have more in common than that which divides us". By making this post only and not sending that email (or flagging this at the BCSE) I am not being 'weak' here. People full of irrational hate tend to die young. My hatred of Long and co is however rational and based on the truth of their appalling behaviour."

They are threatening to block me if I don't always comply with their 'community standards'. Whilst totally ignoring Sorensen and co's failure to comply with their community standards. In future I will post my REPLIES to Sorensen's lies HERE instead of on that facebook page. I am left with no choice.

I have just sent a message to facebook via email. It reads as shown in the next post.

[a_haworthroberts]

"I am getting rather tired of being singled out for recent random censorship of my posts on an OPEN facebook page which is not even my page - this page: https://www.facebook.com/TQEPDebunked/?hc_location=ufi

What you people are either unaware of or are deliberately ignoring is that Mr Bob Sorensen and his admins REGULARLY falsely libel me on HIS own two pages from which they have BANNED me (and people like me) so they cannot defend themselves. Here are THREE examples of that:
https://www.facebook.com/cowboybobsorensen (two posts are reproduced below)
"This is typical of the left. People are bullied for being Christians, Republicans, conservatives. They get their cars keyed and even run off the road, and have to keep their politics a secret because of leftist fascism. People like Hitler-Robbers will call US the fascists, projecting his own fascism on the rest of us. ~CL" [on 17 June; I am not even in America I am in the UK]
"Yonder in London town, they got themselves a nice place called Bethlehem Royal Hospital (a.k.a. St Mary Bethlehem, and even Bedlam, a colloquial mispronunciation of "Bethlehem", associated with the noise and tumult because that hospital was the scene of horrors). So anyway, Wednesday the 31st was not only internet access day, but peach cobbler day. Happy, happy, joy, joy! Haywire the Stalker doesn't like peach cobbler, and would rather eat worm pies. So, he takes his hatred out on other people. Not the impeccable logic and reason he uses. Makes me want to check myself into that loony bin:
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=3153&start=810#p51459" [on 1 June; Sorensen hates me because I debunk his facebook and blog posts about creationism, so he resorts to calling me 'mad' or falsely pretends that none of my arguments count for anything because of alleged 'bad logic']
https://www.facebook.com/Piltdown.Superman/ (this is Sorensen's main page)
Check out all the negative references to 'Haywire the Stalker' in either posts or comments under posts. And I am blocked by these cowards there so cannot even defend myself against their false accusations (whilst viewing the page just now I was suddenly told by facebook that I need to 'confirm my identity' with mobile phone details, hence I cannot currently highlight a specific post)

This is not an appeal against deletion of my posts. It is the reporting of Mr Bob Sorensen allowing the violation of Facebook Community Standards on his own PERSONAL pages."