Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased Facebook fans

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Postby a_haworthroberts » Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:52 pm

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Re: AiG speakers in UK later in 2013

Postby Brian Jordan » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:40 am

a_haworthroberts wrote:http://www.answersingenesis.org/outreach/conferences/?country=%21US
Their web site isn't responding. Watch out for a world-wide tsunami!
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Re: AiG speakers in UK later in 2013

Postby Peter Henderson » Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:06 pm

Brian Jordan wrote:
a_haworthroberts wrote:http://www.answersingenesis.org/outreach/conferences/?country=%21US
Their web site isn't responding. Watch out for a world-wide tsunami!


Yep, been down since yesterday. Must be those Atheists that turned up at the home school conference.

He's angry with Bill Gates now:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... e-history/
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Re: Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased Facebook fans

Postby Peter Henderson » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:36 pm

Now their website is up and running again:

http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs ... Ken+Ham%29
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Re: Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased Facebook fans

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:37 pm

http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... ng-tactics
Ken Ham seems to think secularists are emotional and sometimes name-call because they fail to persuade young Earth creationists to abandon their opposition to evidence-based science. But YECs are proud of having a closed mind, having already decided what they believe about origins and becoming rigid and inflexible in it. For my part I am not trying to turn YECs into theistic evolutionists because I know they do not remotely have an open (and pro-scientific/questioning/sceptical) mind. My aim is to remind them, with examples, that what they teach as 'science' is unscientific nonsense. It may be that an observer or would-be YEC will think twice.
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Re: Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased Facebook fans

Postby a_haworthroberts » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:09 pm

As sent from within the website:


http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs ... Ken+Ham%29
What scientific evidence does Ken Ham have that dinosaurs did NOT die out long before humanity and that some past human beings did see live dinosaurs?
If none, then why does he dogmatically teach this to kids?
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Re: Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased Facebook fans

Postby Peter Henderson » Sat Aug 10, 2013 5:06 pm

More Proof that Ham doesn't really believe that those Christians who reject YECism are really saved at all:

http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs ... Ken+Ham%29

The comments on his Facebook page speak for themselves:

Aaron G Kangas The key is they were "professing" Christians not "confessing" Christians.


Jeffery S. White Well, you know, it's not the "profession" of faith that justifies or saves a person, but rather, the "possession" of faith. Just because people claim to be Christians, doesn't mean they are. I used to think the problem was many of these professing Christians are just spiritually immature and/or uniformed, and I'm sure that is the case in some situations. But, as of late, I'm beginning to think that more and more, when the truth of various important doctrines is taught to them, whether it be the sovereignty of God in salvation, the sufficiency of Scripture, literal 6 - 24 hour day creationism, the importance and necessity of loving church discipline, the Lordship of Christ in conversion, etc., etc., and they still reject it, that just maybe, it's because the light of illumination by the Spirit has never really been turned on because they are still lost. They have mental assent to historical facts, but have never truly been genuinely saved.


Brian Mathe If they don't like Comfort's film and the Godly message he is spreading, you have to wonder how Christian they are


Linda Reventlow Midtlyng We are truly in the end times.


David Pradarelli Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks, and they shall be known by the fruit they bear.


Astrid Bailey wheat and the chaff


Scott Lankford The blame goes mainly to Dr. Hugh Ross of Reason to Believe


Marsha Kay Dixon Dyser but Christians in the true sense of the Word never compromise


and this from Bodie Hodge:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... ian-really

Identifiers Of An Unbeliever


Walks in darkness (sin), practices lawlessness
(you mean like tax evasion ?)

Does not obey Christ’s commands (to love God and love other Christians)


Hates brothers (fellow Christians)


If I didn't know any better I'd say Ham and his followers are redefining what it means to be a Christian.
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Re: Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased Facebook fans

Postby theignored » Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:40 am

I've tried to post on Ham's AIG facebook pages:

Links and screenshots here. Screenshots because, yep: My comments were taken down.
http://www.wearesmrt.com/bb/viewtopic.p ... 40#p111840

Also I posted on their "answers mega conference" facebook page.
http://www.wearesmrt.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12258
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Re: Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased Facebook fans

Postby Peter Henderson » Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:39 pm

theignored wrote:I've tried to post on Ham's AIG facebook pages:

Links and screenshots here. Screenshots because, yep: My comments were taken down.
http://www.wearesmrt.com/bb/viewtopic.p ... 40#p111840

Also I posted on their "answers mega conference" facebook page.
http://www.wearesmrt.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12258


You'll not last long on either posting material like that.

I'm surprised you're still on the answers mega conference page.
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Re: Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased Facebook fans

Postby theignored » Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:40 am

I'm not...my comments have been taken down from what I see, hence the screenshots I took.
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Re: Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased Facebook fans

Postby a_haworthroberts » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:16 pm

God must not be contradicted ... and young Earth creationists speak for God.
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Re: Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased Facebook fans

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:44 am

http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.c ... um-in.html
Ken Ham states on his facebook page that this article is "typical atheist misrepresentation in places" - as if the reader is supposed to know what he might be referring to.
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Re: Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased Facebook fans

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:00 am

Ken Ham in his blog post for 12 August here:
http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs ... -coverage/
The Friendly Atheist blogger Hemant Mehta "says false things like we have not added exhibits over the past five years and the museum is supposedly failing because of low attendance. As the AP article clearly shows, we have added new exhibits".

New blog post, also dated 12 August (it apparently appeared BEFORE Ham's blog because it now contains a REACTION to Ham's blog as an apparent update or addendum):
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... -gimmicks/
Mehta accuses Ham of a "straight-up lie".
Whatever next?
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Re: Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased Facebook fans

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:52 pm

a_haworthroberts wrote:http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/an-atheist-visits-creation-museum-in.html
Ken Ham states on his facebook page that this article is "typical atheist misrepresentation in places" - as if the reader is supposed to know what he might be referring to.



http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs ... Ken+Ham%29
"I understand his actions, though I certainly don’t condone them, for stealing is against all sorts of biblical teachings, including one of the Ten Commandments. But you see, he has no absolute standard by which he lives his life. So why is it even wrong in his secular worldview to misrepresent himself to us? He can justify being a cheater.
So I understand his mindset. I really do. If there is no God, how could an atheist ever say what is right or wrong? By what standard can he make that determination? If each person decides for himself what is right or wrong, then he can argue that what he did at the museum was not wrong. Secular atheistic humanism is a belief system about what we supposedly came from (nothing), what our purpose is in life (nothing), and what happens when we die (which again is nothing). Those who believe this way are only demonstrating the truth of Romans 1—they are suppressing the truth of God’s existence in unrighteousness. They claim to be wise, but Romans 1 states that they have become fools."
It's another rather over the top response by the rabble rouser!
Fundamentalist Christians think atheists and evolutionists are truly evil and truly stupid. No wonder Ham likes the Comfort video in which some of the students interviewed did make themselves look a little silly, slick editing notwithstanding.

This is the post Ham is alluding to.
http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.c ... um-in.html (see the latest comments about the atheist blogger entering the Creation Museum without paying the charge; not sure whether Loftus has actually read the Ham blog post)
I was unsure about why why Ham does not link to it at his blog - as well as at his Facebook page. However, I have just read THIS comment: "I am not going to link to his blog here and give him some satisfaction that we are driving more web traffic to him. Of course, with a little effort you can find it, and I’m sure atheists will be linking to it and his numbers will grow". Ham STILL does not elaborate on Loftus' 'misrepresentation'.

I had trouble posting a comment at 'Debunking Christianity' so have sent an email to Loftus flagging the blog and what Ham is saying about him. I do not condone either the Loftus apparent actions or the response by Ham.
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Re: Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased Facebook fans

Postby a_haworthroberts » Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:45 pm

Loftus has now responded to Ham's blog post. He even allows comments as well.
http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.c ... ut-my.html
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