Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased Facebook fans

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Answers in Genesis - and science

Postby a_haworthroberts » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:08 pm

https://answersingenesis.org/creationis ... ung-earth/
''Tell me please, what are the most compelling scientific evidences of a young earth?''

Will Tony be impressed with Terry's answer?

Will we ever find out?
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Message as sent to Answers in Genesis

Postby a_haworthroberts » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:14 pm

https://answersingenesis.org/homeschool ... textbooks/
''Unfortunately, the reality is that Christian curricula and colleges that teach a literal 6-day creation around 6,000 years ago are the exception, not the norm.''
That' s because both those things are false and the educators wish to inform rather than indoctrinate (whereas AiG prefer to indoctrinate - in home in settings where kids are isolated from their peers and less able to question what you people want them to accept uncritically). ''We are either for Christ or against him ...''. You people are both for Christ and lies and a fundamentalist 'worldview' invented by you and added to what the Bible actually says. You are (Christian) frauds and fakes.
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Ken Ham's latest proof that the Bible is not infallible

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:05 am

[ADDENDUM added early on 5 March GMT, shortly after I sent a wide circulation email after 'Cowboy' Bob Sorensen falsely accused me - again - of 'blatant misrepresentation': https://www.piltdownsuperman.com/2019/0 ... m=facebook
''Romans chapter 8 explains that the whole world is groaning because of sin.'' Not really. See verses 18-23 in the New International Version:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=NIV
Romans 8:22 says ''We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time''. You can only make the chapter say what Ken Ham says it says by invoking - maybe with justification - the Curse in Genesis 3 (and I admit that Genesis does mention childbirth as well as the ground):
https://answersingenesis.org/sin/origin ... -creation/
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=NIV

Also my post headline is not saying that Ham seeks to provide proofs of the Bible not being infallible. But his words highlight that in some cases the Bible is wrong; including on how old it - implies - Earth is.]


https://www.facebook.com/aigkenham/
''Here's another example of documented cancer in the fossil record supposedly millions of years old. This is a major problem for those Christians who believe in millions of years, as it means (for them) that cancer (disease) existed before sin.
There are many documented examples of various diseases in fossil bones supposedly millions of years old. But the Bible states clearly that before sin, God declared everything He created “very good” (Genesis 1:31). This would mean God calls cancer “very good.”
For those Christians who believe in millions of years, blaming disease and cancer on God and not our sin is to attack the character of our holy God. Also, allowing death, disease, and bloodshed before sin undermines the atonement and thus the gospel.
The Bible is clear--death, disease, and bloodshed in this world are the result of our sin. Romans chapter 8 explains that the whole world is groaning because of sin. Christians who believe in millions of years need to give up this terrible compromise belief:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/02 ... d-turtle''

Science has discovered the truth - and bigot Ken Ham hates that and so tries to lecture Christians that they should deny science by trying to frighten them that they are 'sinning against God' by accepting scientific reality.

As indeed I see the opening comment highlights. Namely ''It only provides a problem to those who buy into the entirely unscientific and unsupported supposition that the entire universe is only 6,000 years old.
To those of us with the ability to understand science and take it seriously, the existence of cancer (or anything else) in the fossil record doesn’t pose a problem.''

But Ken Ham will never get real. He's too full of pride and messianic zeal.

However 'biblical' timescales alone are NOT the truth of Earth history. We've known that for many many decades now.
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New AiG article

Postby a_haworthroberts » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:14 pm

Message as sent:

https://answersingenesis.org/is-the-bib ... t-support/
''But we do not fear science because we know God’s Word is true ...''.
You people do indeed fear, and post falsehoods concerning, the international evidence-based scientific consensus. Starting with the Bible when discussing 'science' is NOT scientific it is RELIGIOUS.
''... we have seen time and time again that science ultimately confirms the Bible''. No you haven't. That is your religious delusion. When you put on so-called 'biblical glasses' and indulge in 'circular reasoning' - and demand that other Christians believe the same as you people (pseudo-science) about origins.
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Rabble rousing fanatic Ken Ham

Postby a_haworthroberts » Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:57 pm

The other day Ham was trying again to insist that current global warming is nothing to do with human activities having added greenhouse gases to Earth's atmosphere altering its composition - apparently the reality of hell somehow rules out the current climate change/global warming is caused by recent human activities.
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/201 ... rry-about/

Here's his latest Facebook rant on climate change:
''So "the sky is falling" and climate alarmist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (remember Al Gore's failed predictions!) has a brilliant idea: people need to think about stopping having children! Brilliant! That way humans would become extinct!
I have a climate prediction for her: "While the earth remains, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, shall not cease" (Genesis 8:22). As this promise comes from God, I will adamantly stand by it! Remember, Al Gore's climate predictions failed, but God's Word doesn't change and never fails:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio ... hildren?''

If you believe this fanatic then humans will 'become extinct' if (some) couples don't have children because Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez asked the drastic question 'Is it okay to still have children?' This same stupid and dishonest fanatic who insists that there was an 'ice age' shortly after God's words at Genesis 8:22 - which do indeed appear to rule out future climate change, climate change from God anyway, after the Genesis flood.
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Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased Facebook fans

Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:50 pm

https://www.facebook.com/aigkenham/
''It's "shocking." They've basically proved there's no God—they recreated the origins of life in a lab. Oh wait—read carefully: they produced a couple amino acids under special conditions. That would be like the scientists who made atoms of iron in a lab in Germany claim they basically made an automobile!
Scientists can put all the intelligence they can into designing experiments to try to justify life arose by chance processes—but life is extremely complex, being built on an information and language system.
https://www.foxnews.com/science/nasa-wa ... e-shocking [the Fox News article references this:
https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2019 ... 1812098116]''
Fair comment, probably.

BUT diamonds artificially created by humans in lab conditions don't prove anything about how they were formed - over colossal amounts of time - in nature (with or without God's supervision) either:
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2967&p=52343&hilit=diamonds#p52343 (post dated 3 January 2019)
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