Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased Facebook fans

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Ken Ham loses it again

Postby a_haworthroberts » Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:25 pm

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/c ... -1.4392300
He's raving on his Facebook page in response to this article:
"Oh wow! What an enormous problem! A biblical creationist is going to speak at a Christian Homeschool Conference in Canada! And one person complained and it's headline news as this person wants to force his anti-creationist views on everyone else! What an absurd article. So they claim "He [Ken Ham] denies the age of the earth." Let me be clear! The earth has an age! I have an age! I don't deny the age of the earth, but I do reject the religion of millions of years and evolutionary naturalism.
I love the photo they chose (not)--they really wanted me to look “good”
for this attack article!! They claim I'm a "science denier"--typical false rhetoric used by those intolerant of biblical creationists in order to try to intimidate them and undermine their integrity.
Now, watch out for the “but”: “Alberta Liberal leader David Khan says people have freedom of religion, but ..." And if you read his statement he's basically saying there's no freedom of religion for biblical creationists--typical intolerance."

NO answers there Ken. Just denials. No convincing answers to the charge by local parent Paul Ens that "Ken's material is so anti-science, anti-education, his entire ministry is based upon keeping people back and holding back ideas". Ens was raised a young earth creationist but then investigated 'secular' takes on the history of the planet. And guess what the outcome was.
He has a YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIS4cW ... jwovFYQBJQ

But Ken has something to crow about (when he's not complaining about churches being half empty because they are failing to teach young earth creationist apologetics and therefore 'undermining' the Bible):
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/cancellat ... zh3vh.html (the Christian author of this sounds much much more tolerant than Ken Ham ever does)
Ham says on his Facebook:
"Atheist "Reason to Hope" conference became hopeless and was cancelled. Ultimately, what's the point of such a conference because what's the message? "Become an atheist, give yourself meaning and purpose. Then die and you'll never know you existed. That's it folks."
No wonder the atheist conference was cancelled. They BELIEVE there's no God; They BELIEVE life and universe arose by natural processes. Their religion is one without ultimate hope and purpose. It's ultimately a meaningless religion. Their religion has no Reason to Hope.
But there is Reason to Hope for atheists and everyone: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16). Only Christianity has that sure hope everyone needs."
This somewhat invalidates Ham's claim that atheism is a 'religion' where people feel compelled to attend places of worship and teaching conventions and the like as otherwise the supernatural God they follow will regard them as half-hearted and lukewarm or perhaps even not 'real' believers."

Ham also has a habit of saying if 'atheists' think they will one day be dead forever why do they spend time in the here and now attacking young earth creationist claims (yes some of them attack any and all theistic religions). Truth matters - in the here and now of them and also of their descendants and future generations.
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Latest recruit to AiG

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:53 am

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Re: Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased Facebook fans

Postby a_haworthroberts » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:40 pm

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Re: Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased Facebook fans

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:53 pm

https://www.christianpost.com/news/form ... by-208827/
https://www.facebook.com/aigkenham/
"He didn't give up religion (I don't believe he was a true Christian), and now his religion is naturalism, which is a blind-faith religion that really makes man god! On the basis of naturalism, he inconsistently uses words like 'meaningful,' 'ethical,' and 'good!'
When secularists discuss why their religion is naturalism, the issues of understanding death, suffering, and violence nearly always come up. Yet naturalistic evolution is filled with death and violence over millions of years. But it's sin that explains death!"

Looks like God abandons certain professing Christians and makes them no longer able to sincerely believe or to no longer trust in God's goodness. Whereas other Christians get an almost problem free life and carry on believing (yes some do still believe despite experiencing suffering or injustice).

And I gradually discovered that people like Ken Ham are liars and bigots and rabble rousers (many Christians are nothing of the sort). (I also discovered that God allowed me to have a mental breakdown, attempt suicide, become physically disabled and lose my employment nearly 14 years ago.)

Not being a Christian does NOT require 'blind-faith'. It is hardline hardcore creationists who exercise blind-faith eg that a global flood took place 4,500 years ago or - in SOME cases - that Earth is a flat disk. And NATURE explains death. Death is NATURAL.
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Liar Ken Ham (and his Creation Museum sidekick)

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:33 pm

https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken- ... orldviews/
"Ultimately, evolutionary scientists are relying on blind faith when making their interpretations."
No, creationist liars. It's not 'blind faith'. It is based on reams of evidence. (Many educated Christians also have this so-called 'blind faith' of evolutionary scientists.)
"Beginning with the Genesis record and the timeline provided in the Bible, creation scientists are able to make intelligent, reasonable scientific predictions with logical conclusions. What we observe in the world is completely consistent with God’s Word!"
This is garbage - for these zealots reality only means anything if it is viewed through the indoctrination of a so-called 'biblical lens'. Thus they are using Genesis to demonstrate that reality 'confirms' scripture and also that young earth creationists are doing real 'science' - and then they exclaim that observed reality "is completely consistent with God’s Word". Use Genesis and genealogies to 'prove' that observed reality is totally consistent with 'God's Word'! Very compelling. Except that observed reality is NOT consistent with Genesis because the fossil record CANNOT possibly be the result of a violent year-long hill-covering worldwide flood less than 5,000 years ago. That claim is unintelligent bigotry.

And what Rivera's is doing is 'not' indoctrination of kids?
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Re: Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased Facebook fans

Postby a_haworthroberts » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:16 pm

Now Ham is saying this on his Facebook page: "Have you noticed secularists who reject the Bible often quote the Bible as if they're Bible students, but quote out of context or totally misunderstand the passage?
Here's a reminder that this is a spiritual problem: "For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed" (John 3:20)."

Have you noticed creationists are forever flinging out baseless accusations against everyone else en masse and justifying them with Bible verses? (However 'secularists' perceive that the Bible assumes a flat Earth whereas most 'biblical creationist' fundamentalists like Ham, though not all, will have none of that (whereas they almost die in a ditch over a 'young' Earth).)
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Message as sent to Answers in Genesis

Postby a_haworthroberts » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:27 pm

https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula ... nt-1932210
AiG have made the painful discovery that it is IMPOSSIBLE not to LIE in order to 'defend Genesis'. LYING to defend the 'TRUTH' eh?
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Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased AiG associates

Postby a_haworthroberts » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:18 pm

https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/signs-skies/
"Also in late October, NASA issued a press release that the first interstellar asteroid had been spotted entering and then leaving our solar system.7 We covered that item in the article “1I/‘Oumuamua: The Discovery of the First Interstellar Asteroid” and concurred that Oumuamua (as it was subsequently named) likely was an interstellar asteroid."
And Oumuamua comprehensively falsifies a '6,000 year old' universe. It doesn't take an 'expert' to notice that.
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3837
Faulkner's final claim when reacting to this discovery is totally absurd:
"While we creationists may not have explicitly predicted such a thing, the discovery of 1I ‘Oumuamua is consistent with what we know about creation." Oh no it isn't. It's consistent with REAL astronomy and deep time though.
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