YEC Bob Sorensen - compulsive liar exposed

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Postby a_haworthroberts » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:05 pm

Meanwhile:
https://www.facebook.com/TQEPDebunked/p ... 1096872791
Me: "Meanwhile I've sent the following email re a 'new' Sorensen article that hasn't yet appeared here: [link to this thread and the post about Lake Eyre]
Long: "Logic is off the table, you and your fluffer Hitler-Robber and your false accounts to fluff yourself. Obviously you're trying to censor your intellectual superiors by straw manning the hell out of them, lying, misrepresenting, ridicule. You're having your circle fest of liars and fools. Th combined IQ here is about 57. I just come here to tease the idiot monkeys."

What a waste of space these people are.


ADDENDUM on 14 September: this post really is alluding to this separate thread:
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=3825&p=51655#p51655
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CMI quietly withdraw a misleading claim

Postby a_haworthroberts » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:31 pm

I received an email from one of the recipients of my email about Lake Eyre (a YEC as it happens but not one who obviously lies).

I replied as follows, copied to all original recipients as well (I've corrected one minor typo):

"Having checked online, the world's oldest lake is thought to be Lake Baikal in Russia. But maybe Lake Eyre is still considered the oldest salt lake.

You mention CMI having removed a reference to the 'world's oldest lake'; whilst that 1995 article correctly (I think) referred to the 'world's oldest salt lake' having looked more closely I see that (although he has not responded to my email for which he was a bcc recipient) Don Batten or possibly one of his colleagues has slightly amended his 2009 article - on 13 September 2017 (there are still 101 'evidences' in his list as previously and number 27 is now to do with unreferenced claims about the Arches National Park in the USA and material concerning the 'twelve apostle' sea stacks in Australia) - with the previous evidence 27 concerning Lake Eyre having been REMOVED. (I cannot recall whether Batten referred correctly to the 'world's oldest salt lake' or incorrectly to the 'world's oldest lake' though the RationalWiki link I posted implies it may have been the latter; it quoted evidence 27 as follows: "the amount of salt in the world's oldest lake contradicts its supposed age and suggests an age more consistent with its formation after Noah's Flood, which is consistent with a young age of the earth".

This is interesting and I am thus copying this exchange to all of the original cc and bcc recipients because some of them might only view my original email AFTER the Batten article was altered - and be confused. (The amendment of 13 Sept is welcome, but why have CMI not been UPFRONT via email rather than 'secretive' about the Batten list being amended yesterday?)

Bottom line - without any specific announcement CMI have just withdrawn a misleading claim from a list on their website.

I've only been able to view the abstract of this btw:
http://www.publish.csiro.au/sr/SR9840119"
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Sorensen on his soapbox

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:32 pm

https://www.facebook.com/Piltdown.Superman/
"Science does not support evolution. There are two distinct signs of desperation from Darwin's Stormtroopers that support the idea that they know their evidence is paltry at best. One is the vituperative and obsessive nature of their attacks on creationists... A second sign of evolutionists' desperation is the amazing level of imagination in the "explanations" that they offer...".

The issue is that science does not remotely support young earth creationism. On the second point, unlike mainstream science young earth creationism's wild imagination is normally based (loosely) upon Bible texts and NOT upon actual scientific evidence or scientific knowledge.
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Sorensen supernovae

Postby a_haworthroberts » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:02 am

http://www.piltdownsuperman.com/2017/09 ... ments.html
Supernovae not possible yet in a '6,000 year old universe'.
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Re: YEC Bob Sorensen - compulsive liar exposed

Postby a_haworthroberts » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:35 pm

Email as just sent including to Bob:


And the dogmatic rubbish keeps coming from other young earth creationists who are keen on Ken Ham and detest Bill Nye:
https://stormbringer005.blogspot.co.uk/ ... m=facebook
Bill Nye used outdated and inaccurate science claims, and also underhanded tactics in the debate with Ken Ham".
No he did not. (Which is why you don't elaborate further beyond moaning about 'elephant hurling'.)
The bigoted right wing lying propagandist Sorensen hates Nye but whilst he accuses Nye of using 'selective citing', 'blatant falsehoods' and 'bad science', it is NOT even clear that Sorensen has actually viewed 'Bill Nye: Science Guy' (nor have I). But I have sent many emails identifying specific blatant falsehoods by Sorensen. By contrast when he accuses somebody else of blatant falsehood normally he FAILS to identify ANY of them. And I note that the Answers in Genesis article flagged by liar Sorensen does NOT accuse Nye in the new film of selective citing or blatant falsehoods and fails to identify any specific bad science from Nye (beyond complaining about science being purely naturalistic). These are I strongly suspect made-up false (and malicious) accusations that are being by the hateful 'Christian' Sorensen (who refuses all meaningful debate and censors all critics at his facebook pages).

This new gushing article by Eric Hovind is also flagged:
http://creationtoday.org/we-have-a-book-for-that/
"It was frustrating to see Bill Nye trotting out all the old evolutionary clichés which have been answered a hundred times over. His refusal to listen and respond to Ken made the debate feel more like two separate lectures." I did not notice Ham listening remotely to what Nye had to say at the 2014 debate. "Now don’t get me wrong. Evidence is awesome! As a Creationist, I LOVE evidence." No you don't even if you think you do, Eric. You love "adherence to Scripture over Evidence". You just told us that. And young earth creationists reject and ignore evidence whenever it cannot be made to comply with and verify Genesis. Whilst pretending that other evidence 'confirms' a recent global flood when it does no such thing.
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Re: YEC Bob Sorensen - compulsive liar exposed

Postby MisterGordons » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:54 pm

a_haworthroberts wrote:Email as just sent including to Bob:


And the dogmatic rubbish keeps coming from other young earth creationists who are keen on Ken Ham and detest Bill Nye:
https://stormbringer005.blogspot.co.uk/ ... m=facebook
Bill Nye used outdated and inaccurate science claims, and also underhanded tactics in the debate with Ken Ham".
No he did not. (Which is why you don't elaborate further beyond moaning about 'elephant hurling'.)
The bigoted right wing lying propagandist Sorensen hates Nye but whilst he accuses Nye of using 'selective citing', 'blatant falsehoods' and 'bad science', it is NOT even clear that Sorensen has actually viewed 'Bill Nye: Science Guy' (nor have I). But I have sent many emails identifying specific blatant falsehoods by Sorensen. By contrast when he accuses somebody else of blatant falsehood normally he FAILS to identify ANY of them. And I note that the Answers in Genesis article flagged by liar Sorensen does NOT accuse Nye in the new film of selective citing or blatant falsehoods and fails to identify any specific bad science from Nye (beyond complaining about science being purely naturalistic). These are I strongly suspect made-up false (and malicious) accusations that are being by the hateful 'Christian' Sorensen (who refuses all meaningful debate and censors all critics at his facebook pages).


Once again the meat machine identified as Ashley Haworth-Roberts is foolishly sending email to Cowboy Bob Sorensen when he knows that said email is blocked. Ashley Haworth-Roberts is also lying by omission again. He omitted the sentence after the meat machine identified as Cowboy Bob Sorensen correctly identified 'elephant hurling' from the meat machine known as Bill Nye. The sentence reads: 'For more on that event, see "Reflections on the Ken Ham - Bill Nye Debate"' which included this link: http://www.piltdownsuperman.com/2014/02 ... ebate.html The Cowboy went into great deal about Bill Nye's disingenuous approach.

a_haworthroberts wrote:This new gushing article by Eric Hovind is also flagged:
http://creationtoday.org/we-have-a-book-for-that/
"It was frustrating to see Bill Nye trotting out all the old evolutionary clichés which have been answered a hundred times over. His refusal to listen and respond to Ken made the debate feel more like two separate lectures." I did not notice Ham listening remotely to what Nye had to say at the 2014 debate. "Now don’t get me wrong. Evidence is awesome! As a Creationist, I LOVE evidence." No you don't even if you think you do, Eric. You love "adherence to Scripture over Evidence". You just told us that. And young earth creationists reject and ignore evidence whenever it cannot be made to comply with and verify Genesis. Whilst pretending that other evidence 'confirms' a recent global flood when it does no such thing.


Ashley Haworth-Roberts is once again attempting to create his own reality through repeated assertion. The meat machine known as Eric Hovind did not misrepresent Bill Nye. Eric Hovind was correct that Bill Nye did not listen to the meat machine known as Ken Ham. He does not have evidence for his claims. I expect to receive the usual abuse for the facts that I have presented. Cowboy Bob Sorensen is wise to avoid humans of this nature.
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