Peter wrote: would suggest that but is a very big but. Contrary to what I was told by a YEC minister, CMI are stating in no uncertain terms that those Christians that accept science should have no role within the church. Do you agree with this statement ?
I would guess Marcs short answer here (and only here I suspect-where he knows nobody is stupid enough to buy YECism) would be no.
But actions speak louder than words and Marc is more than happy to turn people from Christianity (despite what his church seems to believe about the consequences for the 'unsaved') and completely wreck the reputation of his church, his Christian faith and his God for it.
He attends a openly and blatently YEC church (our YEC churchs at least keep it a bit quiet-don't push it too hard and certainly don't advertise it too blatenly yet). He has said disenting views are NOT promoted in his church and there is no balance. If you attended and started to try and inject balance I doubt you would survive there for long. Or at least not happily. He has said that anyone not accepting it will be led (read coerced/bribed-you want God it would be better to swallow this YEC crap) to it.
He links to creationist websites where people like Steve Lloyd have clearly stated that they've developed talks especially for those agnostic on the issues because they see them as divisive and not important enough to warrent that divisiveness. In short creationists want thinking people out of positions of authority in churches. And nowhere on Marcs website does it seem to clearly suggest YECism is not necessary for believe in God or salvation-contrary to what he says here.
So I would guess Marcs honest answer would be yes he does agree. Intelligent people, capable of seeing through YEC arguments are not welcome in church and shouldn't play any important leadership roles.
think they are actually stating, in a round about way, that Christians who accept science cannot have a leadership role within the church(I,e, they can't be pastors, ministers, or evangelists.
I would have to disagree that it is in a round about way, looks pretty obvious to me, but other than that yes I would agree that would be what they are stating. They want to convert the world to YECism.
Just as an addition, Marcs little club the Edinburgh Creation Group say they want Edinburgh to be a creationist city. You can't achieve that with sane intelligent pastors/vicars/priests telling the truth.
Getting science accepting leaders out of churches first has got to be an important goal. While they exist people will keep referring to Christians who accept science. That will be more appealing to most of your average Christians who would prefer to inhabit reality and not have to remove their intellects and reason. So if thats the case-how on earth can they increase their profit margins!!!