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Links - 2 New Sections (ID, Religious Intolerance)

Postby Timothy Chase » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:33 pm

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Critiques of Intelligent Design Arguments

As has been extensively documented at this site, the vast majority of those who are promoting "intelligent design" in the UK (including the supporters of Truth in Science) are in fact Young Earth Creationists who believe that the world is perhaps only ten thousand years old and in a literal Garden of Eden, but they are using the pseudo-science of intelligent design as a figleaf so that they may sneak their creationist arguments into our educational system. Nevertheless, intelligent design has been extensively critiqued in the United States. Here are a few resources:

CSICOP Creation & Intelligent Design Watch - http://www.csicop.org/intelligentdesignwatch - provided by the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal - http://www.csicop.org

Master Planned: Why Intelligent design isn't. by H. Allen Orr - http://www.newyorker.com/printables/fact/050530fa_fact - from The New Yorker - http://www.newyorker.com

Intelligent Design (Divine Design) - http://chem.tufts.edu/AnswersInScience/intelligent.html - from Answers In Science - http://chem.tufts.edu/AnswersInScience/index.html

The "New" Creationism - http://slate.msn.com/id/104349 - from Slate Magazine - http://slate.msn.com

Antievolution: Features - http://www.antievolution.org/features - from Antievolution.org: The Critic's Resource -http://www.antievolution.org



Religious Intolerance: A US Export You Should Send Back

The intelligent design movement isn't about science. It is about an ideological movement which is attempting to impose its views upon the rest of us. For those who doubt this, they need look no further than the Wedge Document which announced the Discovery Institute's goals. But there is much more.

THE WEDGE STRATEGY - CENTER FOR THE RENEWAL OF SCIENCE & CULTURE - http://www.antievolution.org/features/wedge.html - from AntiEvolution.org - The Critic's Resource on AntiEvolution - http://www.antievolution.org/cs

News Reports That Expose the True Goals and Financial Supporters of the Discovery Institute - From Genesis To Dominion - Fat-Cat Theocrat Funds Creationism Crusade - http://www.texscience.org/files/discovery.htm - from Welcome to Texas Citizens for Science - http://www.texscience.org

Theocratic Dominionism Gains Influence by Frederick Clarkson, March/June 1994 - http://www.publiceye.org/magazine/v08n1/chrisre1.html - from PublicEye.org: The website of Political Research Associates - http://www.publiceye.org

Dominionism - http://www.religioustolerance.org/reconstr.htm - from Religious Tolerance - http://www.religioustolerance.org

Creationists And the Religious Right - http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/ ... undies.htm - By Lenny Flank, from Creation "Science" Debunked - http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437

The Christian Right, Dominionism, and Theocracy - Part One- http://www.talk2action.org/story/2005/11/28/172929/14 - By Chip Berlet, Mon Nov 28, 2005, from Talk To Action | Reclaiming Citizenship, History and Faith - http://www.talk2action.org
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Postby Michael » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:23 pm

What I have noticed with a lot of YECs - eg from Biblcial Creation Society -Tyler, Truthin Science, McIntosh and Burgess and my fellow Anglican priest and former theologial teacher David Holloway is that they publically put forward design rather than YEC arguments they actually hold. This is similar to what is happening now when YECs put forward for legislation for science teaching in the USA (eg Ohio, Kansas and Doverin recent years) always stress ID, which can allow old earth views and even evolution. (At times there is not much difference between a Theistic Evolutionist like me and an ID guy who accepts evolution, especially to someone not aware of the issues, i.e. Joe Public)

So DESIGN seems eminently reasonable and apparently scientific and along with calls for CRITICAL THINKING YECs have then got a foot in the door .

This is a difficult one to explain to the uninitiated especailly to scarcely informed Christians, as I have found on many occasions

Some more useful papers on ID are to be found on the Christians in Science website for the conference on Design on 18 March 2006 on
the Christians in science website.www.cis.org.uk.
The main papers are by yours truly, Rodney Holder, a Ph D in astrophysics and Denis Alexander a biochemist and don at st Edmunds College Cambridge. Theother papers are not useful and there is one by Roger's friend D. Tyler!

Another article is by the palaeontologist Conway morris on

http://www.churchtimes.co.uk/churchtime ... B2003650C7

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Postby Timothy Chase » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:52 pm

Michael wrote:What I have noticed with a lot of YECs - eg from Biblcial Creation Society -Tyler, Truthin Science, McIntosh and Burgess and my fellow Anglican priest and former theologial teacher David Holloway is that they publically put forward design rather than YEC arguments they actually hold....


I will be looking up the articles and adding them - hopefully early tommorrow morning. When you have offsite articles, please just send me the links.

Currently, one of the best resources (with little investment) that we can develop will be the links page. We should expand it to include more, then divide it into separate pages with an index by topic and alphabetical index. This will provide reporters and other writers with resource material, including those who choose to write essays for the Wiki.

We can also include links to offsite articles by BCSE members - provide them with more exposure. Then, as articles are added to the Wiki, at the bottom of those pages we can include links to their sources, and in the relevant links pages, we can include internal links in their own sections - which will come before the links to external sites.

Don't underestimate the power of links pages to bring in traffic - and don't underestimate the kind of resource they can provide - whether for our own members or for those who simply share our goals.

PS

With the links pages, I am thinking that links to pages internal to the Wiki will come first, then links to pages in the UK, and then links to pages elsewhere. Whenever we provide a link to an article or webpage outside of the Wiki, we should always include a link to the main webpage of the website we are linking to.
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